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Bohn has three ****ty options now that the rug has been pulled out from under him

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Darth Snow, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Bohn is a career AD trying to salvage something after Benson completely nerfed his position and power.
    He has several ****ty options:
    1. Resign and go somewhere he is allowed to do his job

    2. Lay low and just let hawk continue to suck and do his best to keep the ship from sinking and bide his time till some school with a commitment to athletics comes calling.

    3. Go nuclear warfare on the Hawk regime. Fire assistants, hire new ones and give them as much power as possible, micromanage and box Hawk, and do as much as possible to limit his control over the program. This is by far the most difficult choice and there are many levels of it.

    I think #2 is most likely, then #1, then #3. I am rooting for #3. Bohn can't fire Hawk, but he can still do his best to limit the damage he is doing. I just don't see him being that ruthless (oh, and how badly do I want him to be ruthless)
     
  2. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    He does #3 and no coach would ever want to be under Bohn ever again. That would be the worst thing he could do for himself and the university. If all reports are true he is best with #1 or #2.
     
  3. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    like I said... many levels of #3... would be happy with him at least getting new Assistants in here.
     
  4. MiamiBuffs

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    Only two possible outcomes as I see it.

    1. Stay at CU because he has ties to Boulder.
    2. Circulate your resume and find another job.

    He works in a job where this kind of thing happens at a lot of schools. The big decisions, Like Hawk's future, are not left to just the AD. I don't think its that unusual.
     
  5. sackman

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    I'm sure he's fuming right now, but you're right, his options are limited. One caveat to your options would be that he starts a search right now for the coach he'll hire at the end of the 2010 season. Hey, maybe Mark Richt really will be available. That would make the wait almost worth it.
     
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    And Hawk puts together a 9 win season. :bounce:
     
  7. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    If I were him, I'd be compiling a very extensive report detailing the GPA's, the graduation rates, the charitable work performed by players and the net financial contributions to the universities of top ranked schools around the country, then submitting it to Phil & Bruce. It's bound to show that CU is not that exceptional in those areas in comparison to a number of schools that are also successful on the field.

    The first step to Mike getting his power back at CU is for the higher-ups to realize what a massive fraud has been perpetrated on them by Hawk and his "you can't win doing things the right way, or at least not in less than XXX years" line of crap...
     
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  8. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    i'm not sure i buy this "the non-fire was done behind Bohn's back" thing.
     
  9. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    I'm not saying it was done behind his back. But I think it definitely revealed a culture among Bohn's superiors that is going to make it extremely difficult for Bohn to run a successful AD, on the field and financially. That can't be something he's looking at as a good thing for his long-term prospects as an athletic director if he stays in the position.

    Assuming, I guess, that he doesn't agree with their view 100%, in which case he's going to be looking at a very limited number of schools the size of CU at which he would be any kind of fit as an AD...
     
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    CU is pretty much a mess and the ADs job will always be a challenge. CU only offers the minimum number of sports. Only one is (or was) a revenue generator. Even still the department actually lost money this year due to its debt burden. And now we add in the possibility that management has their hands firmly in the cookie jar.

    Given the job he has done at CU I'd say he is very very employable. He raised revenue, brought in some good people, and smoothed over some bad times. His marketing skills were very good.
     
  11. OKCBuff

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    Bohn should just ride it out and stick around to hire the next guy. He should know there's little chance he'll improve enough to be kept for 2011.
     
  12. Junction

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    He's employable now. No question. If he's stuck in a no-win situation for a few years that might not be true, though. And if he buys into the "winning would be nice, but doesn't really matter" mindset, he is employable at a much smaller set of schools.

    If Bohn wants to preserve his long-term viability without looking for the nearest road out of Boulder, it seems to me that educating the administration on the fact that it is possible to win AND do things the right way is the place to start... I agree it's always going to be a relatively tough job since CU will never emphasize or assist athletics in ways some other schools will, but at the moment it has gone beyond tough for somebody looking to produce a profitable, winning sports program.
     
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    Is he one of the employees under contract? Were only allowed 4 if memory serves.

    Im gonna guess he'll get his chance pretty soon. There will be attrition among season ticket holders. How much or how bad is hard to say. Go 0-3 and single game sales are gonna become dicey as well. That's gonna leave DiStefano and Benson picking up the tab for the Ath Dept because IT WILL have a revenue short fall sharper then it already has now.
     
  14. Crash Davis

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    Exactly. The univ. is strapped for cash as it is, and we we're talking about possibly buying out THE highest paid employee with 3 more years on his contract.

    There was no way in HELL that Bohner was going to get to make this decision all on his own. Sucks the way it worked out this time, but that's life. :huh:
     
  15. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    Where is the all-knowing Buffaholic to tell us precisely what happened?
     
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    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm not so sure he's fuming. Realistically, he's got to look at it and say that that the same thing's going on at the University of Maryland. Politically, they've even had Regents come out and say it would be difficult to justify buyout money in the current economic climate.

    My hope is that Bohn agreed with the political realities of the situation and got something in the way of university support for the program (more tutors, admissions exception(s), JUCO/transfer requirements something). And I also hope he and Hawkins agreed that Bohn would increase the assistant coach budget in exchange for Hawkins agreeing to some staff changes.

    In the midst of a difficult situation, there was an opportunity for Bohn to show leadership and be a strong AD that can lead our athletic department for years to come.

    I guess we'll find out.
     
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    I think there are other options, notably a much more professional version of #3, which is to say to Hawkins: you barely missed the guillotine this time. You and I are going to sit down and look at the assistants, the strengths and weaknesses in the program and I will make some recommendations. We'll discuss the pros and cons of our next steps and make some tough decisions for the sake of both our jobs and the future of the program.
    Then, you will implement those decisions without a whimper. You will coach this team next season, but you will make some changes that we both decide are necessary for improvement. There will be no reprieve next time around.
     
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    One thing that is working against Bohn getting a job somewhere else is his hiring record. He needs to hit one before any bigger schools will be interested. Otherwise, he's little more than a really good PR guy. Make no mistake, he's been very good for CU, but the bigger schools want more than that.
     
  19. Darth Snow

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    like I said, many levels. I would be slightly mollified with that approach.
     
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    I like that option and hope it happens. However, I'm not sure Bohn is that tough of a guy to demand that, and I doubt Hawk will ever agree that his coaches aren't doing a good job. I think he honestly believes they are all doing an exceptional job and it will result in wins. He believes in some form of destiny that if he continues the way he does, it will result in wins. He might give in and let go of Hagan or something, but the real two that we need to get rid of, Riddle and Collins, won't go anywhere unless Bohn fires them himself.
     
  21. MiamiBuffs

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    On the outside, as an outsider, I'd agree. But I bet we both know that AD/Coaching community is a very, very small world. Those people will know that any hires Bohn made while he was here were the subject of restrictions; money, clean up the program, academics, used a consultant to make the hires, etc.

    In my mind the jury is still out.
     

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