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Boomer Sooner? Scott to hook 'em a Pac-16?

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  1. RSSBot

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    By Ted Miller

    [​IMG]We interrupt your final preparations for the opening week of the college football season for a word from*our sponsor: Expansion.

    Says Expansion, "We're baaaack!"

    With Texas A&M officially tap dancing its way to the SEC, the general feeling is the Big 12 now stands on shaky ground. Really shaky ground.

    And there are two new power brokers as we look ahead: the Pac-12 and Oklahoma.

    Recall how Texas left Larry Scott and the other Big 12 members*of the Pac-16 plan, including Oklahoma,*at the altar? Well, Scott is no longer a guy who transforms from blushing bride to despondent daisy.

    Recall*the scene in "A Few Good Men" when*Col. Nathan R. Jessep tells Lt. Daniel Kaffee, "You gotta ask me nicely." That's the new Scott.

    Scott has proven he can produce. Texas, the biggest expansion prize,*knows now it will be richer as a member of an expanded Pac-12 than as an Independent*or as a member of a watered-down Big 12.

    But*the team that needs to take the lead on the deal is Oklahoma, not Texas, as Jake Trotter writes here: "This time around, Texas does not hold all the cards and the Sooners have fewer obstacles in their path to another conference."

    Kirk Bohls of the Austin Statesman believes Texas wants Oklahoma to make the first overtures to the Pac-12:
    Should Oklahoma act upon its earnest desires and seek an invitation to join the Pacific-12 Conference — something I'm fully expecting to happen within days, if not hours — that decision could well be the killing blow to the Big 12 while also providing Texas the political cover to follow suit and ask for admission as well.
    The Pac-12's not going to ask first. It's been down that road before, led along until the eleventh hour a year ago.

    Bohls goes so far as to make a prediction.
    Here's what I think will happen, probably before the calendar turns to October:
    Your new Pac-16 members: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
    The era of the super conference begins.

    What about the Longhorn Network, which has been seen as stumbling block (Scott has said as much in interviews)?
    The Longhorn Network gets folded into the Pac-16 as a downsized regional network, joining the six regional networks that already exist within the conference.

    Scott has long said he believes college football will continue to consolidate. And he knows he now holds a strong hand.

    Are we headed for a Pac-16, with East and West Divisions (Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State in the East; California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington and Washington State in the West)?

    Let's just say lots of folks think so.

    Big winner in this: Utah, which wasn't part of the original Pac-16 plan.

    Small loser: Colorado, which would switch out some glamorous Pac-12 road trips for more weekends in Stillwater, Norman and Lubbock.

    Ring-ring! "Larry, Oklahoma is on line 16."

    Big grin: "Tell them I'll be with them when I finish my danish."

    Originally posted by ESPN.com - Pac-10 Blog
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  2. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    It is utterly unbelievable the sheer level of incompetence displayed by Dan Beebe
     
  3. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    The only way this is remotely appealing is if there is a pod system in place.

    If Colorado is stuck in a division with Oklahoma and Texas it will not be a good thing for the Buffs.
     
  4. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    if we have to take UT and OU can we at-least get some less ****** teams then TT and OSU with them? would so much rather have KU than either of those 2 schools.
     
  5. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    This is depressing
     
  6. wsp4820

    wsp4820 Sally Club Member Junta Member

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    **** this noise.
     
  7. leftybuff

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    do. not. like.
     
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    I think that the question of the superconferences is not a matter of if but when and who. That said I'm not entirely sure that Texas ends up in the PAC. It makes sense for a lot of reasons and still might come to pass but I wouldn't count out other scenarios happening.

    One of those is that Texas may be a better fit culturally in the SEC (and Aggie cries again) based on their geography and football culture. The SEC is already full of overblown egos who think the world revolves around their football programs so Texas wouldn't be a disturbance to them or their way of doing business. At the same time the Big 10 may be inspired to take a shot at Texas as well and while not a football driven as the SEC the Big 10 football culture may be a better fit.

    When the PAC expands I think that OU and their little brother from Stillwater are givens. What would be interesting is if the other two schools ended up as KU which may be a much better fit culturally in the PAC and Mizzery who would also be a reasonable fit. Neither of these last two bring anything close to the revenue potential that UT does but they also don't bring Texas tag-alongs (Tech) and the our Bevo manure doesn't stink attitude that the PAC presidents have so far managed to avoid. Had they been strictly driven by money they would have looked at BYU ahead of Utah but showed that they are willing to look at the bigger picture. They also know that even though Texas dominates the TV market in that state the inclusion of OU and to a lesser extent OSU will still give them enough TV appeal in Texas to insure solid TV ratings and put the PAC networks into Texas.
     
  10. SpacemanSpiff

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    I agree that other scenarios exist, but Texas to the SEC is not one of them. FACT! Texas refuses to be associated with a conference that is generally looked down on, from an academic standpoint. There are a couple of good schools in there, but not one that Texas thinks of as a peer school. Texas would certainly listen to the Big 10 and Pac-12. Those are their options, unless they get completely delusional and try make a run at being an independent.
     
  11. Mick Ronson

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    i could live with a Utah/ASU/UA/CU pod system. lumped with Tech, UT, and OU is basically getting moved to the Big XII South minus Baylor and replacing ATM. boo!
     
  12. MtnBuff

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    I know and agree about the perceptions of the academic reputation of the SEC. At the same time if academics where all that important to the Horns they would never have allowed KSU, ISU, and some of their old SWC buddies into the same conference as they are.

    If the money is right the Horns will find a way to justify anything. The SEC generates dollars and would give the Horns the argument that they are in the elite football conference in the country. Aggie joining along with former SWC mate Arkansas gives them another argument.

    Their preference of course would be the PAC, but the PAC on Texas terms, not PAC terms and the PAC may not go along with this plan. At that point UT may begin their counter information program to make what they do look like it was their idea in the first place.

    The Big 10 may still be their destination but I am much less sure than you are that the SEC is out of the picture. When $$$ are involved the Horns have a different perspective on absolutes.
     
  13. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    I think there is a reasonable chance Texas at least ATTEMPTS going as an independent.
     
  14. 96 Buff

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    Do. Not. Want.
     
  15. SpacemanSpiff

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    Memo to Larry Scott: call UT's bluff on that! Let them go independent if they want to (I don't think it's viable for them anyway). Don't let them use that as leverage to get a bigger slice of the money pie!
     
  16. chipwich

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    I am tired of this crap. Can't we enjoy once season in the PAC-12 without reading this ****. **** you A&M. Dooshes.
     
  17. White_Rabbit

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    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    This sucks. I don't want any part of this. P12 for life.
     
  18. Wyo Buff

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    I have to be honest with you guys. I agree with Frank here on PODS short term. That said, maybe my long-term view is corrupted by the fact that we used to kick all of these teams asses from the late 80's to the mid-90's. With equal revenue sharing, there is no reason we can't compete year in/year out with the Whorns and Boomer. I would expect us to regularly beat all of the other teams after we get up and running again. Give us 5 years and it will be a Big-8 style dynamic in the East with OU, UT and CU ALL competing for the prize. Kind of like the late 70's Big-8 with NU, OU and CU. I say it helps us long term because it gives us a much better base to recruit Texas from while still maintaining our ties to Cali for the same.
     

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