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Colorado was better even if record didn't show it

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  1. RSSBot

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    By Kyle Bonagura

    [​IMG]Coming strictly from a win-loss standpoint, Colorado’s second season under coach Mike MacIntyre would be evaluated as a complete and utter failure. And in the results-driven world of college football, maybe that’s fair -- 2-10 is 2-10, right?Except that would also be lazy, and fail to take into account the magnitude of the mess left by previous coach Jon Embree, whose 2012 team might have been the worst Power 5 team in the country. The cupboard wasn’t just bare for MacIntyre, it was rotting at a dump.

    Originally posted by ESPN.com - Pac-12 Blog
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  2. Buffnik

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    Kyle Bonagura impressed me with this blog. Usually when it's a national thing they don't go beyond the surface analysis. Not only did he show an understanding for the win/loss and talent thing (though he probably should have mentioned what was left behind from Hawkins' last 2 recruiting classes - the cupboard being poorly stocked wasn't mostly on Embree)... he also recognized that Baer's move to UNLV was likely "encouraged" based on the failure to show any improvement on defense.
     
  3. Darth Snow

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    Yup, solid analysis. Makes me think he's been (judiciously) reading allbuffs :lol:
     
  4. Shldr2Shldr

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    Glad to see a national writer also saw the improvement. They want to cover winning, competitive football as much as the rest of us.

    I know we all have been in agreement that Neinas needs to be gone, but looking at the numbers, the D was the only unit that did not improve as the year went on. Neinas will likely have another year, but it wouldn't surprise me if some responsibilities were shifted around.
     
  5. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    It's almost like he watched the games and did his job as a reporter. Nice to see some actual evaluation for once. He's spot on about the Defense too 6.55 Yards per play is terrible, not quite 2012 terrible (7.0ypp) but still awful - if we are even mediocre there we win 2 more games. Glad Baer found a "new opportunity."
     
  6. buffedup

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    So desperate for that step forward next year. I thought it was coming in 2009 and...
     
  7. Quattro

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    Using adjusted points for/against, we were at 29.4/33.9. Given those numbers we would expect a team to win 5 games. If the points against number had been at 30ppga E(W) goes up to 5.9.
     
  8. Darth Snow

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    Oh, agreed all around - it's just weird to see the same level of analysis that is common place on a message board applied to an actual article. Honestly, I don't know what most sports reporters do with their time.
     
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    Too many Kyles covering the Buffs, I can't keep them straight.
     
  10. Bufffan68

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    Good blog post...he takes his job seriously. Even if we stay the same on O and improve significantly on D, we should win 5 games at least.
     
  11. Burrito Palazzo

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    It's easy. There's Kyle Ringo, Not Kyle Ringo, and Not Not Kyle Ringo. Duh.
     
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    Not Not Kyle Ringo is only in Barzil 2.
     
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    I didn't read any "The-sky-is-falling-we're-all-gonna-die-never-win-again" Slider-type remarks in his blog......
     
  14. 14er

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    Wait, there's a Barzil 2?
     
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    Not Not Kyle Ringo would actually be Kyle Ringo. Hiding in plain sight.
     
  16. Darth Snow

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    There is, and was, and will be again.
     
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    No he's not.
     
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    Can you put that in graph form so I can understand it?
     
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    how's this?
     

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    reppable.
     
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    "Quantify!"

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    Unfortunately, we are proving the inapplicability of stats to individual cases. Some team in the population should win 5 games, but not the one with such a propensity for ill-timed turnovers.
     
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    Great article. Obviously, most of us have know all this already but it's good to see the national media talking about it. You have no idea how many of my "CSU friends" are just laughing hysterically at the CU football program. I've had two friends who literally gave me an O/U next season of 2.5 wins in a wager. That shows the lack of respect this program has at a casual fan level. Hopefully, we get the new DC and Assistant in place soon and start turning the D around.
     
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    Take it. Make the bet big. It'll be that much harder to cover the bet on a pizza delivery person's salary.
     
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    Take it then throw a piss bomb in their bitch ass faces and collect your dough
     
  27. Duff Man

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    Is it real victories or moral victories on that O/U total?
     
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  29. sackman

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    Even you would have to admit that winning three games next year should be pretty easy. CU *should* be at 3-1, if not 4-0 going into the conference schedule. Barring a complete collapse, I don't see this team with any less than 4 wins next year, and the ceiling is considerably higher than that.
     
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