If it's truly a $10m/school difference, bring on Apple TV exclusively. Having the best Pac inventory in the 10pm ET slot doesn't help with exposure
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Right, and what happens to the middling or bottom tier matchups? Do they get relegated to ESPNU or ESPN News?
New Marchand & Ourand Podcast was just released - lots of PAC12 future media right talk and it's bleak
Starts at 13.30 mark. Sounds like there was a good package on the table 6 months ago and wasn't taken
Guess what ? They don't think Apple is good for the PAC. Why ? It's what I've been preaching, Loss of eyeballs VS linear.
This can't help-
Apple TV+ growth has 'flat-lined' as users say service lacks value: UBS
Apple TV+'s "Ted Lasso" may be making its triumphant return next month — but a new survey hints not even the Emmy Award-winning series will be be enough to boost the streamer's clout with consumers.finance.yahoo.com
I hear that adding sports programming can help with growth!
Might actually give the PAC 12 a little leverage.
My thought too. Does Wazzu at ASU get shown on ESPNU next to the lower tier G5 games? Or not televised at all?
In that scenario you go with Apple. Let ESPN fill their late night slot with Fresno State.
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It seems to track that a media company with little or no live sports content would value Pac-12 sports programming at a premium above media companies that are already able to fill their broadcast windows with similar content. So it won't surprise me if Apple or Amazon would offer the P12 significantly more than ESPN.
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Doesn't Amazon only want one premier game a week? Something like a Friday night Oregon VS Utah type game?
I don't know what Amazon wants. I haven't seen a statement from Amazon or the Pac-12. Was there something I missed?
Its worth noting that you do not need to subscribe to apple tv plus to get the mls package, but being an apple tv plus subscriber cuts the price by 20 bucks.
You missed hours and hours of rando's on twitter.
I don't know what to think of Wilner. He was the beat guy for Cal, Stanford and SJSU for the Mercury. It seemed like when the P12 put all its offices in his area that he had sources. But it also seems like his sources were in the Larry Scott regime, Commish K is running things differently and closing those offices, and most of what's come from Wilner the past 18 months or so has been his own speculation or him running with planted stories to serve an agenda.
The NY Post had an article about Apple.
Apple emerges as potential landing spot for Pac-12 football
Apple TV+ is emerging as a potential landing spot for the Pac-12 college football rights, The Post has learned.
nypost.com
the bolded is a hell of an accusation to make. i'm sure you have reasons and sources; that'd be a compelling topic for discussion in a media thread.
I hadn’t considered that angle, but I agree that Wilner’s reporting has been suspect ever since limousine Larry left town. Wilner used to be really good.
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Don't make too much out of it. Most of what we see tweeted on the topic is sports reporters carrying water for conferences, media companies and/or universities that butter their bread and feed them stories which are slanted, sometimes outright fabrications, and never completely accurate. All the players have "go to guys" for when they want to get something published. My impression is that Wilner is one of those guys. And, honestly, there are a lot more shills than investigative reporters in journalism. Only takeaway from what I posted is that I don't trust Wilner's reporting as being purely factual inside information he has verified.
I don't know about Gonzaga. They're great. Their games would be good television. But it's basketball and they're a tiny school in the Spokane market. How much are they really worth? I did a quick search, but couldn't find what the media contract value was for the entire WCC - but I suspect it's less than what a single Pac-12 member gets.
Maybe it makes sense under the right terms, but I bet that Wazzu and maybe UW would fight this for the same reasons that Gonzaga has blocked the WCC from inviting U of Seattle.
(Personally, I'm hoping that the loss of BYU opens the door for Seattle and Denver to join the WCC. Grand Canyon U would also make sense.)
dump Arizona but maybe add Gonzaga for bball. there may be a lot of recency bias here -- i'm not sure that's going to resonate with a lot of people.
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Arizona's basketball brand/alumni/tv market dwarfs Gonzaga's
yeah, that was my point about recency bias with Gonzaga
Big 12 teams are locked into their deal. I know this thread is basically for speculation and some fun but we need to stop with the Big 12/PAC merger, or corners leaving, or whatever talk. There is no scenario in which these two leagues combine in any way. This fairytale only exists on Twitter.
So what if the media deal is all on Apple for $26 million ?
I see no way Oregon, Washington sign .
If ESPN rumored offer was in the 20’s and the podcast said Apple is 10M more, that is in the 30’s for the teams. Oregon and Washington would be signing.