1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

CU pushing the pace

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Jens1893, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. Jens1893

    Jens1893 Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2005
    Messages:
    33,970
    Likes Received:
    3,292
    - Colorado coach Tad Boyle said his team won’t be afraid to push the pace next season. The Buffaloes — who many believe will be the top challenger to Arizona in the PAC-12 — have the potential to be an explosive offensive team. “We’re going to play faster,” Boyle told me this week. “We’re going to be really long and spread people out. We won’t be as good defensively though.” No they won’t, but Colorado is really going to be able to score the ball. The Buffaloes return starting guards Spencer Dinwiddie and Askia Booker as well as sophomore wing Xavier Johnson, who according to Boyle is ready to explode. “You could see at the end of the year how talented he is,” Boyle said of Johnson, who averaged 8.9 PPG and 4.8 RPG last season as a freshman. “The great thing about Xavier is the bigger the game, the better he plays.” Boyle said he regularly plans to use Johnson as an undersized power forward, and is also really excited about 6-7 wing Chris Jenkins who red shirted this past season. Colorado’s non-conference slate includes home games with Harvard and Kansas as well as neutral site contests versus Baylor and Oklahoma State.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/08...o-pushing-the-pace-more/#.Ufv1LDvgaAk.twitter
     
  2. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2007
    Messages:
    2,468
    Likes Received:
    471
    Interesting, I have lots of thoughts on this.

    A) We hear this every off-season and we hear it continually through-out the year, but we have yet to see them really push the pace.

    B) Under Tad CU's pace/possessions a game has been 67.9 (104th nationally) in 2011, 65.7 (189th) in 2012 and 65 (216th) in 2013. Continually slower and never in the top 25%.

    C) Avg possession length is also getting longer 2011 - 17.1 seconds, 2012 17.5 second, 2013 - 17.9 seconds.

    D) In order to really push the pace you need to get easy baskets, easy baskets come from good defense, as Tad said it's highly unlikely our defense is going to be as good as last year. Another way to push the pace and create more possessions is to score early in the shot-clock, in order to that you need something resembling a half-court offense. CU does not have that.

    Taking our trending of playing slower each year, average possessions getting longer and defense not being as good, I'm going to take the I'll believe it when I see it approach.
     
    RumblinBuff likes this.
  3. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    3,905
    Likes Received:
    96
    This move seems against the culture he's created, so I doubt we'll have much success trying to speed things up.
     
  4. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    25,787
    Likes Received:
    1,359
    jg, do you think we could move to a full press? Any stats on playing a press on defense on how it relates to offense?
     
  5. jwhite17

    jwhite17 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    348
    Likes Received:
    8
    I think Boyle has slowed the team down each year because he has never had a bench, and the bench has gotten worse each year. Last year we really only had 5 players that could score consistently. That's not good. This is Boyle's first year that he will have true depth, and I believe we can go a legitimate 8-10 deep.

    I think we will see more pressing, trapping, etc in Boulder, which will create plently of opportunities for easy buckets and increase our scoring output. I don't expect Boyle to press all the time, but he will do way more of that, and I think we can get our scoring numbers up to the 2010 team due to that change or really close to it.
     
  6. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    6,964
    Likes Received:
    470
    jgisslapped!
     
  7. Fight CU

    Fight CU Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    6,728
    Likes Received:
    1,579
    I prefer a medium pace
     
  8. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,933
    Likes Received:
    100
    I have a feeling that we'll see the team take more chances defensively this year. With the length we'll have on the perimeter, backed by shot-blocker in Gordon, I expect to see guys jump into passing lanes more aggressively in an attempt to generate more TO's. We won't be as good in straight man to man defense, but I do see an opportunity to increase pace that way.
     
  9. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    48,532
    Likes Received:
    4,524
    Any time you lose the conference defensive player of the year, you will not be as good defensively. However, I think he's sandbagging a bit. Boyle builds teams from the defense out. This will still be a defensive minded team and that will cause a lot of transition opportunities.
     
  10. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    10,838
    Likes Received:
    1,298
    new york city!?!?!?
     
    Daaah likes this.
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Messages:
    80,752
    Likes Received:
    16,467
    Pace will be faster somewhat due to schedule. USC will play a lot faster, for example, which will impact CU's stats. I also buy in to the argument that Tad has a bench he can trust this year. Anything beyond a 6-man rotation was forcing it last season.
     
  12. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2010
    Messages:
    19,527
    Likes Received:
    1,610
    Just don't give me the 2010-11 defense. Please. Even with us scoring 80ppg like we were back then.

    I expect pace to go up from last year. I'll believe any drastic change when I see it.

    And still crossing my fingers for better movement on offense. Hopefully optimistic.
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2013
  13. BuffHerd

    BuffHerd Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,167
    Likes Received:
    316
    Fify
     
  14. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    6,964
    Likes Received:
    470
    Was going to copy in an Adam Sandler YouTube but thought it might be a site violation.
     
  15. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2007
    Messages:
    2,468
    Likes Received:
    471
    All of this will be interesting to see this year, if Tad's style has be dictated by personnel or if it's actually his defensive scheme. CU under Tad has played pretty straight up D, hasn't denied the ball on the wing or in the post. I'm all for denying and jumping passing lanes, but that does put a lot of ownership on Scott and most likely Gordon to rotate over when a guy gets beat going for a steal. Communication and good team D is what that philosophy is all about, can't wait to see the style they play this year.
     
  16. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2005
    Messages:
    58,583
    Likes Received:
    4,721
    [​IMG]
     
  17. rolandftw

    rolandftw Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2012
    Messages:
    1,701
    Likes Received:
    52
    I just want to see an offense this year. Know that our personnel made it more difficult in the past, but with the depth that we currently have, would like to see us use the altitude to our advantage more
     
  18. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,933
    Likes Received:
    100
    Yeah, I agree that, one way or the other, this is the year we truly find out who Tad is as a coach. I tend to think he's been somewhat limited the last couple of years due to depth/personnel, but there are no excuse this season.
     
  19. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    1,062
    [video=youtube;mSxnieYctVM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxnieYctVM[/video]
     
  20. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    1,062
    Bud.... Weis.....
     
  21. El Gringo

    El Gringo Pura Vida Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    5,173
    Likes Received:
    583
    Git a rope. #notracist
     
  22. Buffenuf

    Buffenuf massive tool

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Messages:
    2,575
    Likes Received:
    299
    Tad's created a culture that focuses on what the talent he has, needs to do to win games. First year, with Burks, up-tempo and let Burks dog it on "D". Second year with the big scorers gone re-emphasize "D" and run a more patterned offense with Tomlinson at point, when the Mayor was learning. Third year: tenacious "D" and boarding with Dre.

    This year with the offensive weapons available and the length on "D", I'd be shocked if the tempo wasn't increased; particularly when the new coach comes aboard. Kearney was known for an up-tempo game at Holy Cross---in fact, that was likely his downfall there!
     

Share This Page