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Fraternizing with the Enemy: notes on the Idaho State Bengals

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Justin M Guerriero, Sep 9, 2016.

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Will the Buffs win by 20+

  1. Yes

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  2. Negatory...this one'll be closer than many expect.

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  1. Justin M Guerriero

    Justin M Guerriero Well-Known Member Club Member

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    Note: this content was originally reported by the CU independent

    This week, CU Independent Head Sports Editor Justin Guerriero talked to Lucas Gebhart, the Sports Editor at The Daily Bengal, Idaho State’s student newspaper.

    Justin Guerriero: Last week, the Colorado Buffaloes pummeled their in-state rivals, the Colorado State Rams, 44-7 to open the season. The win has led the Buffs to receiving a lone vote in the AP Top 25 for this week (believe me, that’s a big deal for us.) It’s only one game, but the impressive showing has many people excited to see what this Buffs team can do in 2016. On paper, I’d say that the Buffs should easily handle the Bengals. How do you like the ISU's chances this Saturday?

    Lucas Gebhart: Obviously, a Big Sky team won’t be able to match the physicality, speed and depth of a Pac-12 football team. Any Pac-12 school will be better on paper. ISU is a little banged up on the offensive line. The Bengals are starting a true freshman at center and redshirt sophomores at both right guard and tackle, so protecting quarterback Tanner Gueller will be problematic. On paper, there is no possible way the Bengals will win this game, but they don’t play football on paper. Eastern Washington did beat Washington State last week, and that was a Pac-12 vs. Big Sky game, so you just never know.

    JG: I noticed that Idaho State lost some key personnel heading into the 2016 season. Namely, quarterback Michael Sanders, who transferred, and running back Xavier Finney (the school’s all-time leading rusher) and wide receiver Madison Mangum, who both graduated. What offensive weapons do the Bengals have? And are they going to be capable of putting up points against CU’s experienced defense?

    LG: Losing Michael Sanders isn’t a huge loss. Unfortunately, Sanders was a guy that just never fit well into head coach Mike Kramer’s system, so it was good for both parties to part ways. As a redshirt sophomore, Gueller is inexperienced at the quarterback position but has a good arm and mobility. He is still working out some things in Kramer’s offense, chief among those things being that Kramer wants him to stay in the pocket more than he does. We ran a two-back system last season with both Xavier Finney and Jakori Ford. Although Finney is now gone, we still have a good running back in Ford who played a lot last season. He is a downhill, in-your-face runner that finishes his runs very well and never takes a play off. Behind Jakori are three younger guys that could see some time. James Madison, Ty Flanagan and Michael Dean all saw carries last week. Dean is a true freshman and is a guy who Kramer chose not to redshirt, so he will be used in some sort of fashion this year.

    Losing Madison Mangum hurt. He had some of the best hands I have ever seen in a college receiver and was a great route runner and had deceivingly good speed. We also lost another top receiver from last year to academic issues with Broc Malcom. Gueller’s top targets are KW Williams, Josh Cook and Pat Carter. Williams caught two touchdowns against Simon Fraser last week and is the big play receiver, but Gueller will spread it around. Nine different players caught passes last week. With that being said, we will have a lot of trouble upfront with the inexperience we have at offensive line. I could see Gueller being under a lot of pressure all afternoon going against a defense of that caliber. Another player we lost from last year was Tyler Kuder, who was picked up by the Green Bay Packers as an undrafted free agent.

    JG: This game is a showdown between the Big Sky and the Pac-12 Conferences. I don’t mean to inflate the Buffs’ reputation and chances to win this game, but does this game feel like a David vs. Goliath type of matchup to you?

    LG: It does feel a little like David vs. Goliath. I certainly don’t see any of the experts picking the upset. But like I said, Eastern Washington beat Washington State last week. Mississippi State lost to Southern Alabama and Appalachian State gave Tennessee a good game, so it’s not unheard of for FCS teams to be overlooked. There is the money factor. ISU will be making $500,000 off of this game, but Kramer isn’t a huge fan of these types of games. Kramer compared it to a Pac-12 school playing an NFL team. Here is what he said in Wednesday’s press conference… this man is a quote machine.

    “If we were in the Pac-12, I wouldn’t want to play an NFL team,” Kramer said. “That’s the same thing. When you’re going up to resources that are just unimaginable above you, and you’re saying they got 11 guys, you got 11 guys, compete. It’s not quite the same.”

    JG: Wow. I mean, I respect the honesty but at the same time…at least put on a face of confidence Coach Kramer! But Lucas, the Bengals have indeed struggled recently. Eleven out of the last 12 years have been losing seasons and the Bengals went 2-9 last year (1-7 in Big Sky Conference play). What have been some key factors in the failures of the football program in recent years?

    LG: The Bengals had a lot of injuries last season, especially on the defensive side of the ball. In 2014, the team went 8-4 and just missed the FCS playoffs. Two of the four losses were to FBS schools (Utah and Utah State) while the other two were nail biters against Eastern Washington and Montana State. They were one blown pass interference call and one blocked punt away from winning the Big Sky Conference that year. Quarterback Justin Arias was in his senior year and he was 1st Team All-Conference and a Walter Payton Award finalist. He threw for a single-season record of 4,076 yards and 38 touchdowns. I’d say our program is on the upswing and last season was a transition year.

    JG: What do the Bengals look like defensively? Will they attempt to put Buffs’ quarterback Sefo Liufau under pressure? What is Idaho State’s defensive scheme?

    LG: This is the first year they are running a 4-3 defense as opposed to the 3-4 that has been standard in years past. Our defense is definitely the strength of our team. We have a linebacker in Mario Jenkins, who missed last season to an ACL, who Kramer believes has NFL potential. Outside linebacker Joe Martin and Hayden Stout, who plays up the middle, fly to the ball and know the game very well. We also lost our strong safety Taison Manu last year to a broken foot. Having him back has sewn up a hole in the secondary and has provided us with some much-needed leadership. Obviously, ISU will try to get Liufau under as much pressure as possible, but the Pac-12 is a much bigger and more physical conference than the Big Sky probably ever will be. With that being said, we have a couple of 300-pounders up the middle playing defensive tackle that will be hard to move.

    JG: The Bengals surrendered 40.9 points last season. Will similar numbers be yielded to the Buffs on Saturday?

    LG: Part of the problem for us last season was losing two of our top three leading tacklers from 2014 in Jenkins and Manu. Giving up 80 to UNLV and 52 to Boise State also didn’t help either. We certainly won’t see CU putting up a score in the 80s, especially with Jenkins and Taison back. Our defense is a lot better this year than it was last year and I can guarantee we won’t average 40.9 per game this season. We only allowed 233 yards of total offense last game and held Simon Fraser to 11 first downs and forced three turnovers. In order for ISU to win it needs to be an ugly game for the Buffs, though.

    JG: To build off that last question, I’ve heard some good things about the Bengals’ defense. Returning from injuries are linebacker Mario Jenkins and safety Taison Manu. Could those two be a game changer for ISU?

    LG: Getting Jenkins and Taison back is absolutely a game changer. They were two of the top three leading tacklers in 2014. Having them back not only makes the defense better, in that we now have two of its best players back, but the leadership aspect of it as well. Nobody has depth in the Big Sky, so when you lose two top guys like that in the preseason like we did, it hurts.

    JG: Final question: score prediction? How does this game go down.

    LG: I grew up in Fort Collins, so I hate CU. My heart says ISU by 40 but I think it will be the other way around. 45-10 CU.

    Contact CU Independent Head Sports Editor Justin Guerriero at justin.guerriero@colorado.edu and follow him on Twitter @TheHungry_Hippo.

    Contact Daily Bengal Sports Editor Lucas Gebhart at gebhluca@isu.edu.

    For more on campus life, sports, opinion and the arts, visit cuindependent.com
     
  2. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Grew up in ft Collins? 114-0.
     
  3. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    ISU was this Luke Gebhart guy's safety school after not getting into CSU. Ouch.
     
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  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Or he chose it over CSU. Double reverse ouch.
     
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    "We certainly won’t see CU putting up a score in the 80s"

    Is that a ****ing challenge?
     
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  7. Buffnik

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    80 is gonna happen.
     
  8. sackman

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    80 is not going to happen. As has been pointed out several times, MM will take the foot off the gas after we have a 35+/- point lead. If we never manage that kind of lead, the starters play all game.
     
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    Cobie Smulders is so Damn Hot.
     
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  11. Darth Snow

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    Don't have the depth or talent to hang 80 if the starters for ISU are somewhat decent.

    60 would be nice.
     
  12. CUBUFF80

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    I know it was last year, but didn't UNLV pretty much hang 80 on these guys just last year. Not sure talent or depth would stop the Buffs from putting up a number like that if they really wanted to gun for it. However, as others have opined, I don't see MacIntyre going ruthless on an FCS team like that.
     
  14. BuffLuKe

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    If we hang 80, it won't be all offensive points.
     
  15. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Someone will find it offensive.
     
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  16. SpacemanSpiff

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    That's the point.
     
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  17. BuffLuKe

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    Yeah Burrito Wtf Chuck, have a liquid lunch today?
     
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  19. Liver

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    we gonna win by 50+. if these bitches score at all, it will be on the 2nd or 3rd team late in the 4th.
     
  20. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I believe that Idaho State's starting C is a freshman. Tupou should be a beast today.
     
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    *A beast relaxing on the sideline with his feet up after some early domination.
     
  22. Buffnik

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    Today the responsibility of the guys in the 2-deep is to dominate and get up by enough to allow everyone who is not hurt or redshirting to play a lot of game snaps. That sort of thing needs to be important to them. All those walk ons and young guys who bust their asses just like the starters do -- this is their opportunity and the player leadership needs to own that getting them into the game early is important.
     
  23. FlatironsBuff

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    I don't like that. Kind of a slap to Lingren. I do think fresh directions is good, but they are co-OCs. Plus, have not seen how the O will fare against Michigan and Oac 12 foes.
     
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    Again with the somewhat insightful posts.

    We are living in bizzaro world, folks.
     
  25. sackman

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    Good point. I hope MM realizes this, too. Gotta look out for the Rudys on the team. They provide the passion.
     
  26. buffaholic

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    Boise St put 52 on them.

    Portland St beat them in week 2, 34-14 a week after they beat WSU 24-17....
     
  27. buffaholic

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    Get Tupou out of there early. His backups can handle this and it's not real practice if he is dominating. 3 & out is still 3 & out.
     
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    I get nervous about these games because of the past 10 years. **** you Dan Hawkins, wherever you are!
     
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    UNC grad, so I still follow the Big Sky. Idaho State was a popular pick for the cellar in the Big Sky. Buffs win easily. 52-7 or something like that. Win convincingly, but get out of this healthy going into Michigan
     
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    Happens. You get stuck in traffic on College Avenue, which services the nation's longest continuing strip mall and a lifetime goes by quickly!
     

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