Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Waldo, May 22, 2016.
Here's how the Rams are selling themselves to the big leagues.
Aren't you jealous?
I wish them luck. It would be good for overall interest in college football in the state. I'd bet my life's savings against it, though.
I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said before 1000 times here, but playing CSU sucks because there is no upside for us. If we win, we're the flagship school in the P5 conference so we were supposed to win. If we lose then it's a bad loss against a team from a lesser conference and one that's somewhere between terrible and maybe pretty good depending on the year. Also, their fan base is obnoxious and only cares about one game each year. I would love to see them get in a P5 conference and build up a decent fan base. Then we could have a real rivalry that would actually be a lot of fun. I just don't see it happening, though. They'll never get an invite with their crappy fan base and they'll never grow their fan base without being in a P5 so they're stuck being what they are.
This is their chance, they're doing everything they can. Can't blame them.
I can't decide if I want this to happen or not.
This ain't netewes. Go to another board, ramfan.
Which poster in this one is the ram fan?
If you enjoy talking about the team and it's prospects. Fan.
I support it. It has as much potential as CU to attract a fan base of their own if they got competitive. Similar alumni profile, growing metro area. State residents couldn't care less. But if they started winning, who knows? In the meantime, conference foes will pack their mini stadium. The state's growth is their strong suit.
The only interest I have in this is how it would affect CU. Anybody have any thoughts on positive effects it could have, if any? For a CU program that has struggled in recruiting the past decade, I don't really care to have another P5 program in the same area to compete for recruits with. On the other hand, it seems it could bring more excitement and competitiveness to the college game in CO that would benefit CU. I dunno, help me out here.
I wasn't aware that CSU has only won more than 7 games in a season twice since 2002.
God the state of college football in Colorado is abysmal.
Being in the solid Pac-12, as opposed to the continually shaky Big 12, would still put CU in a stronger situation vis-a-vis CSU. But, it is obviously in CU's best interests, as long as we are a bottom-feeder in the conference, to be the only P5 program in the state. We struggle to keep recruits in state as it is. We don't need to be losing the P5 edge to another school in state.
If we were good, I wouldn't see it as being as big of a deal.
It only helps us if CSU gets really good. Like, playoff team good. In that scenario, we actually ride their coat tails. Otherwise, it might bring a few more eyeballs to College football in Colorado that might not otherwise be there, but the impact would be minimal to us, I think.
Why would them, becoming playoff team good be good for CU?
If you believe that competition is good then having a stronger CSU would force CU to pay attention to maintaining their top dog place in state. At least that is a theory.
I don't see any short-term advantage to CU if CSU rises.
Long-term, I could see Colorado as a state with a population of 8 million in 20 years and the Denver metro having over 4 million people. If that happens and both CU and CSU are in P5 conferences, we could have a pretty significant annual cross-conference game similar to Georgia v Georgia Tech or Clemson vs South Carolina.
In a lot of ways, this state and CSU are both getting too big for their current positions in college athletics. I get the point of CSU fans. The reasons they see Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Iowa State, Washington State and Oregon State in a P5 conference while they are G5 have absolutely nothing to do with anything except that those schools were much smarter about conference positioning and athletic investment 60 years ago. Not about endowment. Not about size of the student body. Not about access to a larger media market or a larger state population. CSU has a good argument from this standpoint. Their mistake was in that 1947-57 era when CU and then OSU were the 7th and 8th members of what became the Big 8. CSU could have cared back then and made it the Big 9, but they didn't. So now they have almost no tradition or political ties with anyone in the P5. Tough spot.
Because people from across the country would tune and wonder why the buffalo wasn't running.
That's all I got.
I'd rather see CSU shutter the football program for insolvency than join the B12. More t-shirt fans for CU.
I would rather csu rot....
If they're serious they need to re-design the new stadium and figure out a way to shoehorn in about 15,000 additional seats. And then find the people to sit in them...
Quite frankly, I could give a **** what they do.
Thank you for a meaningful response to the discussion. I also think CSU getting into a P5 conference would give the state of Colorado more cache as a football state. It could also force CU to take the sport more seriously if they have to directly compete with an intrastate college. Might also truly kill the Denver game. CSU wouldn't have anything to gain by playing another P5 team in non-conference.
Oh, in order to fit in with the discussion. CSU is terrible, rams are dumb, Ft. Fun is a cow town...
So, in this world of having to like everyone and everything, I want to apologize for not responding with a 5 paragraph love fest for the rams.
I know this may be difficult for you but many people don't like csu.
My God, CSU really? Why is this even a topic? For some fans that could care less about them, they sure as hell get brought up a lot.
I actually think the opposite re: the CU/CSU game. If CSU becomes a P5 team, that makes the game more meaningful and worth playing. It's a no-win situation for CU today, but if CSU joins the Big 12, the game moves back to campus, I'd be ok with the series and it should be much more lucrative to CU under that scenario.
Dammit, you've doing this wrong all day and it's just now pushed me over the edge. You COULDN'T care less. Get it right. Or else people will think you actually do care about CSU.
When I am reasonable about this I get **** for it. When youre reasonable you get likes.
Oh why don't you bitch a little.
Because I could care less if you keep getting it wrong.
Think about that for a second.
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