http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/...ll-program-tries-dig-out-deep?source=infinite
Good, but sad, summary. It all falls on the admin and their incompetence.
Good, but sad, summary. It all falls on the admin and their incompetence.
To start, why are you reading a Kizla article? Second, why are you linking it?I think you two need to up your dosage.
To start, why are you reading a Kizla article? Second, why are you linking it?
I'm confused. The by line reads Patrick Saunders and Tom Kensler.
I've heard lots of reasons for the downfall, but this article for me put the timeline in perspective...about how the non-scandal really affected the program in recruiting. I knew the scandal hurt, but I didn't understand to what depths it hurt the program. I thought someone else might find it informative.
Honestly, the reactions seems way out of proportion to a simple little post.
I'm confused. The by line reads Patrick Saunders and Tom Kensler.
I've heard lots of reasons for the downfall, but this article for me put the timeline in perspective...about how the non-scandal really affected the program in recruiting. I knew the scandal hurt, but I didn't understand to what depths it hurt the program. I thought someone else might find it informative.
Honestly, the reactions seems way out of proportion to a simple little post.
The article is factual enough, but being the DP, I do have to ask, "why now?". What is the point of re-hashing this story in the wake of a defeat to Utah? That's the problem I have with it.
I think there were many other directions they could have gone. Instead of going over what happened 10 years ago, recap the season, or follow up with where are the seniors going next? Who has draft/NFL aspirations? Heck, write about the CSU coaching change. This seems like just another time to dump on CU.
LOL. It's my superpower :lol:Yeah I don't need to read the article. Sadly the story is imbedded in my brain. It all started with "the scandal" and the stupid decisions made by the powers that be at the time as a result of "the scandal".
After that it was bad coaching hire after bad coaching hire. All the losing has negatively affected the perception of the program making it harder to recruit here.
It's going to take a special coach to turn it around and I am hoping HCMM is the one because if he isn't, well that would make it that much harder to turn this thing around.
I believe, without the so called "scandal" or even if it was handled better, Gary Barnett would still be our coach and we would be a perennial top 25 team.
Ok now I'm depressed. Thanks Bufffan68
But they can rest well in their self-righteous "but we're CU"...as if we we're ****ing Stanford or Harvard or something. I hope that streak of snobbery and liberal elitism has left the leadership of the university forever.Pretty good detailing of how betsy and mary murdered a program and cost the university a fortune.
I always wonder how much GB's falling off in recruiting was his failure and how much was the restrictions placed on the team. The man could coach (well, except for the first few games of the season), but it was obvious at the end that he didn't have the athletes.
Overall though, pretty much all of it is on the administration(s):
Hiring the weasel.
Completely ignoring facilities from the completion of Dal Ward until the east side boxes, and then completely ignoring them again.
Over reaction to the non scandal, putting ridiculous restrictions on the recruiting process.
Bending over to [strike]take it from[/strike] please the NCAA on stupid minor violations.
Pissing off pretty much every HS coach in the state by mishandling GB's firing.
Keeping Hawkins on for the lame duck season (killing two recruiting classes in the process).
Hiring a completely unqualified head coach and staff in order to "save" money.
Being fair, hiring GB was probably a good move, hiring Hawkins was also a good move at the time, and moving to the P12 was also a good thing. But that little bit of good was killed by all the stupidity (and more) listed above...
GB took a declining program and made it declinee-er. He sucked.
Hard for me to disagree more. But, it's water under the bridge. It really started to get bad when the recruiting restrictions kicked in, that hurt more than anything.
I was wondering about the timing of JE and EB leaving for UCLA. This makes sense. But in 2003, where GB's recruits were Jr and Sr, we had a losing record. GB was good, but he was losing his touch even before the scandal. Pigeon was a good hire at the time...the extension really killed us. Not firing a coach who was 3-9 is ridiculous. Jesus, last time we were any good...I had much more hair and less gut.I'd modify your statement to say it started when the "scandal" was looming and some of our best recruiters jumped ship to join Dorrell at UCLA.
You know what the craziest thing about the "scandal" always was to me?
Dick Tharp
Unreal.
No more hookers and blow.so what were all of the self imposed recruiting restrictions. The article mentions a few of the big ones, then a quote by Barnett about GPS kind of hinted that there were many more restrictions. Anyone have a list? It could be interesting