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If we don't win a Pac-12 game

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by sliderNcider, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Is this season a failure? No donor, recruit, coach, player or fan will look at wins vs CSU, Central Ark, and Charleston Southern as a success. 2 extra wins are nice but those are pretty hollow wins and aren't going to show anyone that things are looking up in Boulder. We must win a Pac-12 game
     
  2. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    At the end of the day for those of us not in the running for the Rose Bowl, it's the overall win column that matters most. That said, we've clearly got to win a Pac-12 game for this season to be considered a clear first step forward under this regime.
     
  3. rolandftw

    rolandftw Club Member Club Member

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    I tend to try to withhold judgment with a coaches first season in a clear rebuild. With that said, if CU went winless in Conference play, I would be a lot more worried about the staff going into year 2. I do believe CU will get a win against someone, most likely Cal
     
  4. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    I didn't expect to win a PAC12 game this year.
     
  5. Buffalo Brad

    Buffalo Brad Club Member Club Member

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    I did and do expect to win a Pac 12 game this year but the chances have gotten very slim. Cal is the best chance. Either way, I know the team is not where we want it, but there is improvement and they have not quit like last year. They have reached my win prediction but I thought one would be in the Pac.
     
  6. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    If?
     
  7. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Cal clearly has a talent edge on us, but I'm not ready to write that one off just yet. They're a hot mess and I'm not even sure they care anymore, let alone 3 weeks from now when they're 1-9. This Arizona team, while nothing special, is certainly a notch or two above Cal. I also think Cal's coaching is quite suspect.
     
  8. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Not saying it's not possible, but it's not like we are going to have a decent crowd for that game. Can't wait to see who we put in the Heisman race at that game.
     
  9. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I do think it'll be a shootout. Cal is so bad on D that even we can get into the 30's, and I'm sure we'll give up our share as well.
     
  10. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    We won't be favored in any games left. And the odds of winning any more games is slim.

    That said, Utah and cal are beatable. Like az was.
     
  11. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    The Utah DL is freaking nasty. You think running against UA was hard? That DL stopped a great Stanford OL. We will be 14 point dogs for that game.
     
  12. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Water bottle won at Utah. Anything is possible.
     
  13. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Utah's DL is quality and they're improved, but they are just 4-4 (1-4). That's more about how tough the Pac is, but they looked like **** today against USC. Utah does have those games where they just flat out suck. They've taken leaps to "Pac-12 themselves", but there's still a bit of MWC in that program. We seem to play them better than any other Pac-12 foe (other than arguably Wazzu). Hopefully we can be competitive in SLC, but not holding my breath given what that DL will do to our OL. We may not get 10 rushing yards if Lindgren doesn't get creative.
     
  14. CVilleBuff

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    Agree we probably won't be favored, but Cal is going to be pretty close. 3 points for being at home and Cal likely being 1-9 with their lone win 37-30 over Portland State. That one might be close to a pick 'em given our superior record and it being home. Cal is certainly more beatable than Zona was. Utah probably less so given that it's on the road (I think Zona and Utah are basically about even in terms of quality).
     
  15. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Perhaps if Utah was at home. At home they've done well against UCLA and Stanford. They suck on the road, even at a ripe for the picking U$C.

    WB emphasized winning on the road so much that it was inevitable he was going to win one. We had better players that year than we do this year.
     
  16. Lukeasaurus

    Lukeasaurus Well-Known Member

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    I think this Season can be a success w/o a win against a Pac team. If the team keeps getting better and we are in games until the 4rth quarter from here on out like last night then it's a step up from last year.
     
  17. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    I expected CU to lose a lot of games this year.

    But I was hopeful that CU would not lose games in such a spectacular fashion.

    CU has been blown out at home and on the road. These conference games aren't even close.

    Many see improvement. I don't see it. If Paul Richadson was on the field last year, he would have had made some big catches under Embree. Absent Paul, this is the same product we've been watching all along. If some want to point out the OOC schedule as progress, go ahead.

    My measuring stick is conference play.
     
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  18. o_robbie

    o_robbie I don't think before I post

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    If you are measuring our success in conference play you might as well stop watching. I suspect we will be an underdog in every conference game we play in next year as well.
     
  19. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    I'll watch every game. Don't mistake disappointment with not caring. This is my team, through thick and thin.

    Is it wrong to want more from these young men who wear the Black and Gold and their coaches?
     
  20. MiamiBuffs

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    No, not a failure. This team is clearly better coached but comes up short due to personnel and youth. There were bright spots in all these losses compared to the alums tenure. If MM can get us some decent recruits he can begin to pull this team out of the abyss. I think its going to take a few years of incremental improvement.
     
  21. zbuff

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    I think most of us came into this year knowing we'd lose a lot - just wanting to see improved play each week. Unfortunately, it's been up and down, but I think Sefo is getting his feet under him. I had expected us to go 2-10 after a 2-0 start. Circumstances changed that, and I'm now pretty hopeful we'll win against Cal. Utah is also beatable because their QB throws a lot of floaters. The question is whether our secondary will be anywhere near the ball.
     
  22. Darth Snow

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    Last night hurt, but was expected. I'm seeing small signs of improvement on both sides of the ball. That said, we need a pac 12 win or 2 to meet the general expectations for this team. Really just one should do it.
     
  23. azbuff

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    We have a decent shot of winning a conference game at home. On the road? No chance. I was prepared to say we were making strides if we had been able to make last night a game throughout the second half. We weren't and I think we've made only marginal improvement from last year. Will many years of continued marginal improvement get us there? Sure, but not until 2018.
     
  24. Duff Man

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    Don't you know we are just supposed to get blown out in every conference game and that's okay? This PAC-12 conference is pretty cool, the wins are secondary. Just happy to be here.
     
  25. Clean Undies

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    [QUOTE = Brainwash] MacIntyre turned around SJSU. The Spartans had a bad season in MacIntyre's first year. The team is improving. We knew coming into this season that there wouldn't be many wins. I am confident he is the right man for the job. He's better than juice box and water bottle. Just be patient. [/company line]
     
  26. leftybuff

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    Why don't I find this inspiring?
     
  27. Alfred91

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    We need to win a conference game, IMO, and at this point the Cal game is the only winnable game. So mark that as a must-win.

    The casual fan might see our record go from 1-11 to 3-9 and see improvement, but a lot of other people are going to see a win over a bottom-level MWC team and two FCS teams and know that's there's not much. Donors, recruits, and especially other schools' recruiters are going to be looking at it.
     
  28. krom

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    Based on what I have seen from this D's ability to disrupt the passing game, Goff will use this game for his highlight reel (as do all opposing QBs) and light us up for 500+ yards. Cal may be sucking wind under Sonny but their talent level, size and speed are way ahead of CU.
     
  29. Shldr2Shldr

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    We are so far in the hole in terms of our roster, we really need those facility upgrades and soon. I think Mac has won enough to start turning the corner in recruiting, he needs that extra piece though. The improvements are clear, we are competitive with our first string for the first half, but we cannot keep up in the second half because we have no depth.
     

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