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Interesting conspiracy theory from Texags

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Darian3Hagan, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    Just read this from an Oklahoma board........... am a Florida alum and Gator fan who�s become very interested in the realignment of college football which has begun to take shape. Have tried to follow events as closely as possible. As last week progressed I began to see some things nobody has talked about but lead me to some conclusions which startle me, especially considering that I am not by nature a conspiracy nut.

    I believe that the Big Ten and Pac-10 conferences have jointly planned a major upheaval in college athletics, primarily over football and are working very closely together in order to bring it about. Although uncertain, I believe that it�s likely being done with the active complicity of the University of Texas. The goals are simple: both the Big Ten and Pac-10 seek to significantly enlarge their power and influence over college athletics and do so in a way that isolates the Southeastern Conference, in recent years the best athletic conference in the America. The Big Ten/Pac-10 have, in my view, consciously decided and have engaged in a course of conduct to destroy the Big 12 Conference, largely because it�s in the way. Thus far only there is only one thing which has prevented this plan from being successfully executed.

    Texas A&M University.

    A&M�s current indecision over whether to join UT in the Pac-10 or join the SEC, assuming the Big 12 can�t be saved, has forced both conferences to make changes in the original plan. There�s tremendous pressure being put on A&M to join the Pac-10 because the entire Big Ten/Pac-10 plan will fail to achieve its full goal if it doesn�t join the Pac-10: increased power to both conferences while at the same time isolating and minimizing the SEC.

    When the Big 10 first announced expansion plans months ago interest focused on Notre Dame which rather quickly stated its desire to remain a football independent. Beyond that the initial media coverage focused on one (1) Big 12 school, the University of Missouri and several schools in the Big East. The interest in the latter was, ostensibly, to gain the Big Ten access to the New York City TV market. It all made sense. It was all a farce. The Big 12 school targeted by the Big Ten was Nebraska. The Pac 10 was also initiating expansion plans, though far more quietly. Its goal: expand to sixteen (16) teams all from the Big 12. The goal of both conferences was to destroy the Big 12 and gain power as a result. They are very close to succeeding.

    As things moved on there was almost simultaneous disclosure of the Big Ten�s interest in Nebraska and the Pac-10�s interest in Colorado, schools in Texas and Oklahoma. During Big 12�s recent administrative meetings two significant (2) things occurred: First, the �rest� of the Big 12 imposed a deadline on Colorado, Missouri and Nebraska by which time each was required to state whether it intended to remain a Big 12 member (the deadline was originally thought to be Friday, June 11th, though some suggested it could be as late as Tuesday, June 15th; Second, word started spreading that while the Big 12 could survive the loss of Colorado or Missouri or both, it could not survive if Nebraska decided to go elsewhere.

    Both the deadline and the �we must keep Nebraska or we die� ideas were lead by one (1) school: Texas.

    1.Why Nebraska? Yes, it has a rich tradition, especially in football, but if the Big 12 could survive Colorado or Missouri or both, why couldn�t it survive if just Nebraska left? ANSWER: Because it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you�re going to publicly destroy something like the Big 12, it helps if you can justify it in advance. It also helps to create the illusion that Texas wanted to keep the Big 12 alive.

    When Nebraska�s Chancellor addressed the university�s Board of Regents meeting on Friday, June 11th, he related a discussion he�d had at the Big 12 meeting in which he essentially asked three (3) questions: What happens if Missouri leaves? Big 12 schools thought the conference would survive. What happens if Colorado leaves? The Big 12 survives. What happens if Nebraska leaves? Oh, that�s different, if Nebraska leaves the Big 12 collapses.
    At the same Board of Regents meeting Athletic Director (and former football coach) Tom Osborne stated that when Nebraska officials grilled other Big 12 schools some admitted (I�d be shocked if Texas wasn�t one of them) talking to as many as three (3) other conferences while Nebraska had only talked to one (1), the Big Ten. As a result Nebraska officials thought they had no choice but to find a new place to land. That is exactly what one (1) of those schools wanted Nebraska to think, so the Huskers� leaving the Big 12 would cover the tracks of other schools when they deserted the Big 12. That school is Texas. If you�re going to destroy something in which you belong, it helps if you can blame someone else.

    2.When Texas and Texas A&M officials met on Monday, June 8th, to discuss saving the Big 12, was that the real goal of the meeting? ANSWER: No, the real goal, at least from UT�s view, was to convince Texas A&M to join UT, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado in the new mega-conference Pac-10. Problems arose because A&M officials weren�t sold on the idea and wanted to look at other options.

    Texas (the Big Ten & Pac-10) assumed that A&M officials could be cajoled into following UT�s lead because in many matters A&M has done so in the past. Of course by now the cat is out of the bag on the Pac-10�s plans with other Big 12 schools. Baylor University is going to be left out (because the Pac 10 doesn�t want Baylor) and efforts begin in Austin to see if Baylor can be substituted for Colorado in the new Pac-10 mega-conference.

    3.Why does it matter to UT if Texas A&M joins the Pac-10? There�s the historical relationship of the two schools, as institutions of higher learning in Texas and the athletic rivalry. However, neither has anything to do with it. ANSWER: Texas needs to get Texas A&M on board to prevent the SEC from gaining any foothold in Texas. The Big Ten/Pac-10 plan calls for the Big Ten to extend is domination from the Midwest into major TV markets of the East while the Pac-10 becomes the preeminent conference west of the Mississippi River. To accomplish that, the Pac-10 must add the entire state of Texas to prevent the SEC from expanding its territory and its influence.

    Saving Baylor University actually played into the Big Ten/Pac-10 cover story which became even more important when Texas A&M insisted on looking at alternatives to Pac-10 membership.

    4. Why was Colorado, surprisingly invited to the Pac-10 earlier than expected and prior to Nebraska? Why was Colorado taken out of turn? ANSWER: To put pressure on Texas A&M. Although never conceded as such, almost everybody in the media and elsewhere assumed the Pac-10�s invitation to Colorado last Thursday was to stop any pro-Baylor efforts in Texas, AND any pressure on UT to make a Pac-10 invitation to Baylor a condition of its willingness to go to the Pac-10. It was the perfect cover story.

    The Pac-10 doesn�t want Baylor and never has, but adding Colorado just prior to the Big Ten-Nebraska engagement did two things: First, if anybody tried to blame either the Big Ten or the Pac-10, each can claim that initially they took only one (1) Big 12 team; Second, when Nebraska did leave the following day, Texas can say that, despite its best efforts, the Big 12�s days are over and that Texas A&M better get on board with its fellow flagship university partner and join the Pac-10. Why? To stop the SEC from entering Texas by adding a major school from Texas to its conference lineup. The Pac-10 and Big Ten don�t want the SEC in Texas. One of their common goals is to reduce the SEC�s power by denying it expansion that helps the SEC grow.

    5. Why, after wooing Missouri for months, did the Big Ten�s Commissioner tell his Big 12 counterpart after confirming Nebraska�s invitation to join his conference that the Big Ten didn�t anticipate adding any other Big 12 schools to his conference? ANSWER: Because Texas A&M�s interest in options beside the Pac-10 has created instability the Big Ten/Pac-10 can�t control. Adding to that instability only creates more chances that it gets worse. And, remember, because of Texas A&M, things aren�t going according to the original plan.

    Nebraska�s exit from the Big 12 confirms UT�s self-fulfilling prophecy that the Big 12 is dead. It�s not that the Big Ten isn�t still interested in Missouri. However, because of Texas A&M�s position, it now makes more sense for the Big Ten & Pac 10 to split any responsibility for the Big 12�s demise; allow Texas to lead Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 under the ruse that the Big 12 is no longer viable; then when the Big 12 collapses the Big Ten can still invite Missouri which, technically won�t be a Big 12 school because the Big 12 is either already gone or officially on the road to self-extinction.

    6. Why has ABC-TV been so quiet in all of this? The network has television rights to the Big 12 and stands to lose a lot, correct? ANSWER: Wrong, it does not because it�s also the primary TV partner of both the Pac-10 and Big Ten. If this goes according to plan, money that would have gone to the Big 12 for distribution will now mostly go to the Pac-10 with some to the Big Ten. Chances are ABC (and its subsidiary, ESPN) will lose little or nothing in this massive upheaval. Instead ABC will just be shuffling off roughly the same amount of money into different conferences. There is also a major gain for ABC in that it�s prior relationships with both the Big Ten and Pac-10 are more significant because both conferences become far more powerful.

    ESPN puts major investigative reporters on Barry Bonds and other significant sports issues. College football is undergoing the most massive change in its history and ESPN is doing nothing but covering the basics of who�s going where. Why? Because any serious outside investigation of the realignment of college athletics might expose the possibility that ESPN�s parent company, ABC, is involved in this plan. The Big Ten/Pac-10 want to beat back the SEC. ABC wants to beat back CBS which is the SEC�s television partner.

    7.Why has the Pac-10 imposed a 72-hour deadline on Texas A&M while its commissioner personally hands out invitations this weekend to Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State? ANSWER: Because time is of the essence regarding the overall plan, but especially the Big Ten�s portion of the plan.

    In order for the Big Ten to pressure Notre Dame into accepting a Big Ten invitation, the conference must destabilize ND�s comfort zone. To do that it must seek new members from the Big East conference which houses most of Notre Dame�s non-football athletic teams. Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Rutgers are the schools most often mentioned by the media. However, if that happens, the Big East becomes unstable and, likely seeks some sort of merger with the Atlantic Coast Conference. Two (2) Texas newspapers, citing SEC sources, indicated that the SEC�s dream expansion scenario involves Texas, Texas A&M, North Carolina-Chapel Hill and Duke. Media reports confirm that the SEC has talked with UNC and that it didn�t say �no.� Neither has it said yes.

    8.Why is the SEC�s dream scenario important in all this? ANSWER: Because a major goal of the Big Ten/Pac-10 plan is to prevent any significant SEC expansion into any non-SEC states.

    Because of Texas A&M�s unwillingness to blindly follow UT�s lead in the western portion of the Big Ten/Pac-10 plan, everything has bogged down. That must be controlled in a way that forces A&M to follow UT into the Pac-10. If not, the SEC makes inroads into Texas and Texas TV markets. Destabilizing the Big East by the Big Ten could lead ACC schools to do what Nebraska did and seek other options. If SEC adds Texas A&M as a conference school, that is bad for both the Big Ten and Pac-10. However, if the SEC adds A&M, North Carolina and Duke (a 4th school would need to be added as well), a major goal of the plan is a total failure. Adding those three (3) schools to the SEC not only makes it the best football conference in the U.S., but also the best men�s basketball conference. Further, Notre Dame probably correctly reads the long term consequences of such events and, again, decides to stay an independent, thus ruining another basic goal of the Big Ten portion of the plan. There are six (6) major college athletic conferences in the United States: the Big East, Atlantic Coast, Southeastern, Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac-10. The plan by the Big Ten/Pac-10 calls for one (1) of those conferences (Big 12) to be destroyed, two (2) others (Big East and ACC) to be destabilized towards a merger, and one (1) more (SEC) to be isolated so it can�t adequately respond to the two (2) new power conferences in America (the Big Ten and Pac-10). Hell, it�s almost like the old days when the Rose Bowl was the premier New Year�s Day game and was controlled by the same two (2) conferences.

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  2. UrbanaBuff

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    Wow, dude has some time on his hands. His thoughts are completely baseless too, because with or without A&M, the SEC can easily grab 2-4 outstanding schools. In fact, in my opinion, the SEC would be better off not grabbing ATM, but instead getting better historical programs like FSU, Clemson or WV.
     
  3. BeachBronco

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    I am not usually a conspiracy theorist kind of guy but he does give one very interesting point, ESPN's coverage has sucked in all of this, totally reactive instead of proactive...
     
  4. PhillyBuff

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    Are you aware that ABC/ ESPN have the new SEC contract?
     
  5. bombay

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    Colorado got the early invitation for three reasons: 1) they're a perfect fit for the PAC, both academically and culturally. 2) The PAC wanted nothing to do with Baylor. 3) They wanted Texas to know they were not running the show.
     
  6. DBT

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    Could someone post the Cliff Notes version? :wow:
     
  7. ScottyBuff

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    grasping for straws, but the heart of the argument that the Big Ten and Pac-10 have collaborated to gain "market share" is correct. But why is that newsworthy?

    Shocking! Athletic conferences want to gain power and exposure and don't want others to become stronger than they do. Call the New York Times!

    What is a legitimate "conspiracy theory" is if the new 32-team combined "Rose Bowl faction" of the Big Ten and Pac-10 pushes forward with a college football playoff that they have 50% of the membership in + Notre Dame that would give them 33/64 votes for a the majority rule, effectively cancelling out the ACC/SEC to dictate policy in that scenario.
     
  8. Buffnik

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    Cliff's Notes

    A guy from Florida who roots for the SEC and has way too much time on his hands wrote out a 2,000 page conspiracy theory to state the obvious... that the Pac 10 and Big 10 are trying to make up ground on the SEC or even surpass it with this expansion. Bevo was supportive of the idea and is working to help make it happen. And that Texas A&M to the SEC hurts their effort.

    Other than the stuff about Bevo which could be right or wrong, the rest deserves a. "Duh! Did you think the rest of the country was going to give up and bow down to the SEC, a group of institutes for higher education that do not know 'southeastern' is 1 word?".
     
  9. Varsity

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    Wrong, wrong and wrong.

    It is about money not academics and culture. And if Texas wanted to go to the Pac-10, the Pac-10 people would be delighted.

    Where do you get this ****, Texags?
     
  10. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    There's more money in the academics than there is in athletics, though. Most ADs lose money and receive 15-20% of their budgets from institutional funding.
     
  11. Bama Charlie

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    Dont look for any Florida school to be added to the SEC.
     
  12. sackman

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    As I said in another thread, I think the SEC is going to try to increase it's basketball prominence. It has nothing to prove in football, and any additions wouldn't strengthen the conference in football, so they better bring something in basketball. The SEC is pure in it's motives - it wants to dominate college athletics. It doesn't concern itself with annoyances like "academic standing". It just wants to kick everybody elses ass on the field/court. There's a certain purity to that which I can admire.
     

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