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Kickin' Kizla

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by ScottyBuff, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    I know Kiz is an idot of the first order and the paper he writes for, but this part of his article got me P.O.'d so I wrote him an e-mail. If he responds I'll share it here as well.

    Here is the article

    My e-mail:

    In your most recent "Kickin' It" article you fielded this question from Scott in Denver:

    "I'm confused. I've been a CU football season-ticket holder and a donor since 1991. What am I missing? The athletic department is all but broke, we can't pay our new football coach a $2 million salary and his assistant coaches are going to be on food stamps. But I was told by a regent a move to the Pac-12 would bring in $20 million to $25 million per year. If moving to a new conference is supposed to bring a tsunami of cash from the West Coast, where is it?"

    And your response was this:

    Kiz: "When some of us suggested joining the Mountain West Conference would be more in line with CU's budget restrictions and its ambivalent feelings about big-time football, die-hard alums took it as a slam. No slam was intended. The sushi is indeed tastier near the Pacific Ocean. But, contrary to what CU administrators led us to believe, maybe all the streets in California aren't paved in gold."

    Are you serious? What part of "join the Pac-12 in 2011-12" school year is hard to understand and report to your readers? Last I checked we are still in 2010 and will be in the Big 12 for another 8 months. Our next conference "payout" won't come from the Pac-12, but the Big 12 in April/May of 2011. And that will be reduced due to the "exit fee".

    None of that makes us "fit for the MWC" budget-wise. We still operate a much bigger athletic department than any Mountain West team and much more aligned with the Pac-12 schools.

    But how you can fail to answer Scott from Denver's questions accurately makes me question your ability to report accurate facts.

    Our first "paycheck" from the Pac-12 will come in the spring of 2012, and it won't be a massive increase compared to our Big 12 payouts, unless they renegotiate their TV deals ahead of time.

    Our first paycheck that can be expected to be in the $15-20 million range will be the spring 2013 payout, after the conference has established a new TV contract or network, or both.
    We have to "hold down the fort" until that time. If you were promised a $100,000 bonus from the Denver Post that would be paid as a lump-sum in three years, do you start spending that money now? Or do you wait for the money to actually be paid to you?

    Thanks for doing nothing to enlighten the college fans in Colorado to the realities of what the Pac-12 membership will be like. Maybe you shouldn't discuss things you don't know and stick with coverage on the Mountain West Conference, since your ability to understand and report above that conference is severely lacking.

    Sincerely,

    Scott in Pueblo.
     
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  2. Tractor

    Tractor Club Member Club Member

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    Rep. That guy is an ass clown. He referenced his own (stupid) theory on a completely different subject.

    Q: Why is grass green? A: It would benefit the grass to grow in a place where there's lots of rain.

    Thanks, but you didn't answer my question in the slightest....I hate hate hate when people do that.
     
  3. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Here is his e-mail response:

    My response:

     
  4. 92Buff

    92Buff Well-Known Member

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    Idots like Kizla are not even worth the pixels used up by their typing.

    Any whackjob that ever stated anything about us joining the MWC being a good idea has their head so far up their ***** that they are hopeless. Wish there was a permanent ignore feature that could be enabled for so many of the media hacks in this town.
     
  5. Buffalo Brad

    Buffalo Brad Club Member Club Member

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    What an asshat he is. Did he also forget to mention that the Pac was going to help subsidize the impact of the change so that CU would not have to take a major hit in any one year? Did he mention that our payout from the league is certainly going to increase substantially when the new TV deal is done, or that fact that there are parameters in the new deal to ensure that there is even Revenue distribution amongst conference members (granted with a threshold that needs to be reached)? No he did not. He just like to try and stick it to CU every chance he gets with his trusty pen at the post. He also is too lazy to go out and find the real facts, too much work. He would rather just make **** up to support his pathetic view of life and specifically CU. ****ing doorknob.
     
  6. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Here is the next round of e-mails:

    My resply:

     
  7. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    So, since we may not pay a head coach salary that would be top 4 in the Pac-12 (over $2 million) that means to Kizla that we should have chosen to pay the Big 12 buyout in order to join a non-BCS conference and make about $8 million a year less in conference disbursements?

    It's really sad that this is a major voice in the media for Buffs coverage. It's borderline retarded.
     
  8. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Scott, if I may offer up a small bit of advice: find a post by absinthe. Check out his sig line. Forget trying to convince Kizla of anything. The man is a walking brain fart.
     
  9. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    ...and never get in an argument with someone who works for a company that buys ink by the ton.
     
  10. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    You want to change the media's hate of CU? Stop buying their ****ing papers!!
     
  11. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    I just got back from playing hockey and found round 4 in my inbox. I guess Kiz loves to drop the quick and dirty "your stupid, I'm smart" conversation enders.

    Kiz:

    My last reply:

     
  12. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    I should have taken your advice earlier!

    Oh well. I don't read the Post as a subscriber, just their internet postings, so I don't feel like I "support" them. But, I just got fed up with their "CU Sucks" gang-bang of articles lately. How ****ing short-sided are they? And they are supposed to be the "voice" of the people.

    It really is no surprise that newspapers are dying off, but why can't you die an honorable death?
     
  13. Tractor

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    Wow, he sure proved his point by not referencing a single fact after his first response. Did I miss anything after the whole "It'll cost 10 mill" tidbit?

    Like others on this board, I do not condone trying to show him the error of his ways. It's like trying to teach a dog a card trick. I do however commend your effort. If you wish to continue this, I did a bit of digging that may help illustrate in rather simple terms that the PAC12 > MWC. Maybe, just maybe even a tard monkey can see.


    Option A:

    MWC currently has a 10 year, 120 million contract, so 1.2 million per year per team.
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/06/04/1216770/bsu-move-could-be-worth-millions.html
    Now they lose 2 of their top 3 schools and gain 3 schools. We’ll go ahead and assume the deal goes up somehow but everybody still gets 1.2 milyear (unrealistic). So they break their old contract, and without the state of Utah increase it to 132 million dollar contract over 10 years.
    It’s also worth noting that the MWC didn’t have a very good TV deal with BYU and Utah. Remove the Utah schools and replace them with Boise State, Nevada and Fresno State, and there’s much less appeal for ESPN. (Nevada brings nothing to the table. FSU brings something, I suppose, but not much.)
    Don’t be surprised if the real MWC revenue for Fresno State and Nevada might not quite match the projected MWC revenue for the newcomers.
    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2010/08/18/mwc-expansion-wac-reduction-thoughts-on-a-wild-wednesday/



    Option B:

    With the addition of CU and Utah, Navigate projects the Pac-10's next TV deal should be worth about $14.5 million per member school. That's nearly three times the Pac-10's current deal and more than $5 million more than CU received last year from the Big 12.
    http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_15334642
    (how about using references from the Denver post, is that too much?)


    Or perhaps, since we're dealing with the Kizz: Would you rather get paid $12,000 a year to write crap, or $145,000 to write the same crap?


    Now I guess the 13.3 million dollar question is, why the hell would we choose the MWC over the PAC12?


    And to your point about it not being where is it but when is it? How many years of 13.3 million dollar differences between these conferences does it take for the PAC12 to be better for CU than the MWC?

    I realize this is a simplification and doesn't factor in expenses, or alumni donations and support etc, but I'm pretty sure we'll have to start small for him....
    Good luck if you continue this nonsense. Keep us informed.
     

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