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Looking to the future of CU MBB

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by mattrob, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

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    I've been sick the last week and a half, and with only the Hartford game to distract me until conference play, couldn't help but dream on the future of this team a little bit. I've made a few assumptions here, but I think everything is pretty reasonable. I'm looking to the 2014 season, as that's the time I think we'll really have established ourselves on the basketball scene.

    2013:
    NCAA Tournament appearance

    Departures: Chen (GR), Mills (TR), Roberson (NBA)
    Recruits: Fletcher, Thomas, Hopkins

    2014:
    NCAA Tournament appearance

    Departures: Adams (GR), SHT (GR), The Mayor (NBA)
    Recruits:
    Dom Collier: Top 50-75 PG
    Evan Fitzner: Top 75-100 C
    Ronnie Harrell: not the highest rated player we could get, but an outstanding shooter who could be a nice threat off the bench. And with the attention East is getting, he could still push for top 150 in 2014.

    Roster:
    Guard: Ski (Sr), Stalzer (Jr), Talton (Jr), Collier (Fr)
    Wing: XJ (Jr), Jenkins (So), Thomas (So), Hopkins (So), Fletcher (So), Harrell (Fr)
    Post: Scott (Jr), Gordon (So), Fitzner (Fr)

    That's a team that's deep, talented, and balanced, coming off 3 straight NCAA appearances and having sent players to the NBA in consecutive drafts (2 out of 3), with Scott likely to follow. I think that will be the end of the "building" phase for Tad and the program will be an established basketball school.

    It's fun to look at just how far we've come and note far we can go in the next few years.
     
  2. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    Next year is going to be really interesting in Dre doesn't leave early and Mills doesn't transfer. Personally I don't see why Mills would transfer now if he didn't transfer after last year.

    And this was in Thorburn's DC article today:

    The latest mock draft at NBADraft.net projects Roberson as the 21st pick in the first round. ESPN draft expert Chad Ford ranks Roberson as the No. 44 prospect for 2013 and projects him as a second-round pick to undrafted free agent.

    If his ratings stay where they are I don't see him leaving early.
     
  3. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    If he's looking at a first round grade he'll go, I get the feeling he wants his shot in the NBA more than he wants to win at CU.
     
  4. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    If he has a first round grade, he shouldn't stay. Period. I would hope that Tad would tell him to go if he has a first round grade. Too much can happen, and the NBA views seniors as "damaged".
     
  5. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    the only downside for him is if he isn't a lottery pick his contract is guaranteed.

    I see Dre as similar to Faried but with less size, which is going to hurt Dre in the NBA because a lot of guys can match up to his athleticism. Now I don't think he will be successful playing the 4/5 in the NBA, he is probably play the 3/4 and he is going to have to spend some time on his offensive game either while at CU or at college.

    couple of points for mattrob:

    Hopkins: I see him as Spencer 2.0 and he might be a more bigger & athletic version of Spencer, which should scare the crap out of teams. Let him back up Spencer next year and then he gets to man the point in 2014/2015 when Spencer is in the NBA.

    Dre: much to what I posted above, I am starting to think we see him here next season. I don't know how it is going to shake out with scholarships, but there are a few guys that aren't getting playing time or might be on a one year audition so I have a feeling things will work out and will open up. At the start of the season I think Dre was probably at 95% going to the NBA and I think that has dropped around 65% as we all saw how much he struggled with his outside game to start the season and decided to go back to what he does best and it shows.

    and the last thing that I missed from your post, was the NCAA championship going to come in the 2014/2015 season or the one after?
     
  6. jwhite17

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    Roberson is gone if he can go in the 1st round, or even in the early second. I think he can contribute on a decent NBA team as a role player off the bench next year if in the right situation on a veteran team (Spurs/Lakers/Heat/etc).

    Selfishly, I want him to stay one more year to take the CU program to new heights never seen before if we all of our best players return, but you have to go to the NBA if you can get drafted in the 1st round. Too much money to pass up.

    Roberson will never be a great offensive player, but he can do so many other things very well, and the NBA needs guys like that too.

    As for the future teams, I can't wait to see our depth next year. X Johnson will replace Roberson. We will have Fletcher, Hopkins, Thomas, Gordon and Jenkins coming off the bench. All those guys have great length and size. Adams/Tunks will see less time unless they start producing this year. That's much better than what we have now. All those guys are top 150 guys except Jenkins. Our bench next year might be more talented than our current starters! Booker was a three star unheralded recruit. Dinwiddie a fringe top 150 guy. Only Scott/Johnson were consensus top 100 guys.

    The next few seasons will be very exciting. We just have to figure out how to win more consistently on the road, and our team will consistently compete for conference titles. Who would have thought that was possible back when Bzedelik was coach? Absolutely amazing job by Tad.
     
  7. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    It wouldn't surprise me if SHT departed after this year. No inside info, just a hunch.
     
  8. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    Agree. I believe Shane will graduate and that he is more than likely ready to return down under. This is his 4th year at CU.
     
  9. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

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    This. He may have already stayed one year too long and I don't see his draft stock getting any better next year.

    As for Mills, that's just a guess based on some of the transfer rumors, but I don't think Tad's the type of coach to sign 3 kids if the scholarships aren't there. Whether its Mills, SHT, or someone else, I think someone's already indicated this is their last year in Boulder.
     
  10. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

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    Both!! :thumbsup:
     
  11. Buffenuf

    Buffenuf massive tool

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    If Mills gets his degree, he can transfer without sitting out, ala Jordan Webb. Mills could make a living in Bulgaria playing BB, he's practiced against some good talent for three years to get himself ready.
     

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