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Mizzou Officals have REPORTEDLY met to discuss the Big 11 plus latest Pac-10 comment

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  1. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/05/12/missouri-expansion.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

    It's becoming more obvious that Mizzou is on its way out of the Big 12...I think they have burned so many bridges that it won't be pretty for them if they remain in the Big 12.

    I don't like those words from the Pac 10 commish regarding expansion. This seems like the recent meeting between Big 12 officals and Pac-10 officals in Phoenix might end up creating the joint Big 12-Pac 10 channel and in that case, the Pac-10 might not have incentive to expand in that situation. Suppose NU and MU goes to the Big 11, I can see BYU and Utah replacing those two in the North.
     
  2. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    From everything I am hearing, the Pac-10 is only interested in creating an joint television channel for the Big 12 / Pac 10. I have not heard any mention of the Pac 10 expanding, other than from Buff fans, that is.

    The people here in Oklahoma are saying that Texas does not want to leave the Big 12 (why would they?) and so Oklahoma / OSU / A&M / Tech don't want to leave either.
     
  3. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Me either...I hate Latin.
     
  4. 92Buff

    92Buff Well-Known Member

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    So the mention of looking at a partnership with the ACC is new. Did the Big XII discussions not go so good? Or are they hedging their bets that a depleted Big XII would not be as interesting?
     
  5. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    If Texas and A&M leave for the SEC and MIzzou and NU leave for the Big 10, where does OU end up? It's starting to sound like we are really truly ****ed if we don't get a PAc 10 invite. We need to be actively courting them.
     
  6. 92Buff

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    Latest rumors have OU, OSU, UT, and A&M going to the SEC. Of course, those are just the rumors that are surfacing today...
     
  7. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    So worst case scenario - that happens, we don't get invited to the pac - 10, and we end up in a glorified MWC. That would suck so hard.
     
  8. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    If the Big Ten and SEC both go to 16, I really don't see the Pac-10 standing pat...

    To me, it just makes too much sense for the SEC to add the Oklahoma/Texass schools. Add that to a couple Florida schools and they own pretty much every single hotbed of college football. Wouldn't shock me to see them drop Vandy and the Cocks to make that happen...
     
  9. BlackNGold

    BlackNGold Club Member Club Member

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    The ACC has a heavy population Footprint, A solid brand, and it is located in a fanatical sports fan areas (which helps with cable subscriptions). The ACC would be interested in strengthening its TV contract and actually would be an attractive partner.
     
  10. HotRack

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    All the sports stations have been yapping about the possible expansion scenarios down here in Austin. What's interesting about it is, (compared to when there was the rumor flying around about UT going to the Big 10,) is that I detect a definite hint of fear in the talking heads voices because UT has no clear direction on what they want to do.
    If kNU and Mizzery bolt - it's going to be fun to hear these a-holes stressing about what happens to UT down here.:smile2:
     
  11. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    No compelling reason?? C'mon Mr. Scott, how about a conference championship game which you can't have without expanding. That and you have the worst TV deal in the BCS.
     
  12. OKCBuff

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    That's been the talk in my circles down here for about two weeks. I think it's going to happen.
     
  13. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    Other than the 2 Florida schools, Clemson, and VT there isn't a whole lot of football fanaticism in the ACC. And Clemson and VT aren't exactly near any major population cities. :huh:
     
  14. Creebuzz

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    Or, another theory, Mizzou, Rutgers, Syracuse, Nebraska, Pitt and others are being played, just to scare the **** out of Notre Dame. I know that Domers are concerned that a few mega conferences emerge and they get left palying Army, Navy, BC, and the Jesuit School for the Blind every year. So, could the Big X just be leveraging the situation to force ND's hand? It's a win-win for them. Add ND and you get a great 12 team conference, or add another three teams and about 20 million TV sets to your contract.
     
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  15. Junction

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    Miami isn't exactly noted for football "fanaticism", for that matter. But they would still bring quite a bit to a conference. And wouldn't be in a great position if they get left in the ACC while FSU joined UF in the SEC....
     
  16. OKCBuff

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    Possibly, but I'd figure an easier way to pressure ND would be for the Big 10 schools to agree to NOT schedule ND until they are in the Big 10. That's basically 25 percent of their slate every year -- Michigan State, Purdue and Michigan are on their schedule for this season. But I'm sure that's hard to make sure 11 schools stand up together on that.
     
  17. UrbanaBuff

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    Perhaps he was talking about hoops. For that, I would agree that the ACC has the most fanatical following of all the major conferences, hands down. And that would bring in big revenue dollars during the winter, when the Pac 10 is not known for hoops outside of UA and UCLA.

     
  18. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    True. If anything Miami may bring viewership though, which of course is what everyone is really after.

    While that would be a good plan for the Big 10 schools to boycott ND, it might just further damage the relationship between ND and the Big 10 to where ND would end up going anywhere BUT the Big 10. The biggest thing that might force the hand of ND is if the Big East falls apart and ND is left without a conference for their non-football sports, leaving them no choice but to join the Big 10. Which is kind of Creebuzz is saying, I think.
     
  19. superdeluxe

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    hearing as in 'media' reports? or hearing as in 'being a fly on the wall with Pac-10 AD's and larry scott?

    Because one way to increase a good amount of revenue is to have a championship game, and unless the NCAA allows leagues with less than 12 teams to have one, then for that to happen, the pac-10 must expand.
     
  20. superdeluxe

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    Actually the ACC talk has been bandied about before. But back then..it was ACC/P10/B12 network..or so combination in between.
     
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    academically, I would think UT is a better fit with the p10, and OU with the SEC.
     
  22. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    ACC/PAC network makes a lot of sense. It's truly national, both conferences have similar academic reputations/cultures, there would be a boatload of programming, and time zones would be better covered to allow for live games in both the early and late time slots. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than a B12/PAC network.
     
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    I agree, and some guy did some crazy population study of all the current states in different conferences..the ACC and Pac-10 were 1 and 2 in terms of population and growth by 2050.
     
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    Clemson is down the street from Atlanta and VT has a major following the the DC metro...so they would carry pieces of those markets.
     
  25. CarolinaBuff

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    The Atlanta market is undoubtedly dominated by UGA to some extent by GT. If anything Clemson would carry more of a presence in the Charlotte area and solidify all the markets in SC as SEC markets.
     
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    The thing about Atlanta is... it's the capital of the South. If you've ever been in Atlanta in the fall, you'll see tons of car flags from just about EVERY SEC team -- it's the hub of commerce in that region. So you get SEC grads from all over moving there to work. That's a big reason the SEC title game/tournies are mainly in Atlanta -- so many fans of each school that there's a built-in fan base for everyone.

    So with that in mind, I don't see the need for GT. They're a GREAT school and have a solid fan base, but they "feel" more like an ACC team. Clemson definitely "feels" more like an SEC team (big on football, careless on hoops), but they already have South Carolina so it seems redundant.

    I still feel like the SEC's focus is adding the Texas TVs and the UT-OU series (and OSU and A&M) and move the conference more west. That's all new market area for the SEC -- adding GT or Clemson or the Florida schools wouldn't do that.
     
  27. UrbanaBuff

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    OKC, I agree with you about the overlap markets in FL. But it still MUST be tempting for the SEC to think of adding such tradition-laden schools as FSU and Miami. You would be absorbing numerous national titles and Heismans from Day 1. That history has to be worth something. The question is does that intangible value equate to dollars?
     
  28. NW Buff

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    I can't speak for the rest of the Pac 10 region but I'm simply not hearing much in Oregon about the possibility of expansion. I think the Pac 10 will expand if it makes sense but they won't expand just to expand.
     
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    I'm not hearing anything out here in California.
     
  30. OKCBuff

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    Oh hey, I totally get all that and agree. But the Big 10 wouldn't be looking at Missouri and Rutgers if they wanted history and championships. These moves are ALL about TV and money. Adding FSU and Miami would be nice, but I still think nabbing OU and Texas would net a bigger payday from the TV gods. And, as said before, those would be new markets for the SEC. Not necessarily in terms of TV since we get SEC games here on ESPN, but we don't pay attention to those games as much. Texas TVs are on Texas school games. That's something like 24 million people. Then add 3.5 million in Oklahoma and that's 27.5 million NEW bankable TV sets for the SEC to take into negotiations down the road. They would NOT be able to get that many new numbers from adding any east-side school.

    From what I've heard here, OSU and OU are on board with the SEC, as is A&M (the Ags have wanted to go there for decades). This is all down to Texas. And, if what I heard today about Mizzou is true, then it might be time to look around.
     

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