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My official Pac-12 schedule proposal

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by OKCBuff, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. OKCBuff

    OKCBuff Well-Known Member

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    Let me preface this by saying I ended up going on a tangent late last night/this morning -- trying to figure out a Pac-12 scheduling format that was fair for every school in the league -- and by the end I was pretty tired. So if I messed up badly somewhere, eff you. :smile2:

    That said, I've felt (and mentioned on here, with several voices of support) an East/West divisional structure with a NorCal and SoCal school in each division being the fairest for every team, no matter their location.

    In the past few days, I have pushed for a setup like this:

    Pac-12 East: CU, Utah, Arizona State, Arizona, UCLA, Cal
    Pac-12 West: USC, Stanford, Oregon State, Oregon, Washington, Washington State

    This setup would keep a mostly regional format with two California schools in each division for recruiting/showcase purposes. The rival California schools had to be split to do this, but there's a solution to that below.

    The schedule structure would go: 5 intra-divisional games, TWO locked cross-division games, and two cross-divisional games that rotate every two years. Obviously this means a nine-game schedule.

    Someone might have proposed two locked cross-division games already, but if they have, I missed it. Late last night it occurred to me that having two locked cross-division games (and a nine-game schedule) would be the ONLY way a truly fair Pac-12 schedule could be designed. This means every team, no matter if they're far north or far south, would get a SoCal or NorCal team every year. And, they'd get the other SoCal or NorCal team two years in a row home and away before trading them for the other NorCal/SoCal school for the next two years. Then, I split up the others in such a way that every team plays in a state/region all the time as well to maximize recruiting/exposure.

    Anyway, I'm explaining this too much. I have posted an Excel example for the board to check out and voice their opinion.

    I also included a mock CU schedule format (sans H/A -- that can be decided by the league office) and an example of how the Buff's schedule might rotate every few years:

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    Thoughts?
     
  2. LABuffalo

    LABuffalo Member

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    Very nice. Thanks.
     
  3. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    not a bad sched. I like the idea of 9 games in conference, and I think your proposal is the best I've seen. It provides for a cohesive and equal conference where everyone will play everyone often enough to keep the division format from splitting the conference (which was part of the problem in the B12)
     
  4. boulder77

    boulder77 Certified Organic Club Member

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    I agree. The old Pac-10 schools need to get over the fact that they won't play in LA every season. This type of schedule seems to provide the most balance and put everyone on an equal footing. And, it seems. 9 conference games is also necessary to provide the balance. Well done, OKC.
     
  5. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Great job OKC. This is exactly the format I've long been a proponent of as well.
     
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  6. Highlander27

    Highlander27 Well-Known Member

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    Looks okay. We're just subbing Cal in for USC which is okay in my book. Washington State/Oregon are our inter-divisional rivals... ok with Oregon, nobody really wants WSU in all this but I guess somebody has to have em'.

    This might be a player in the overall grand scheme of things.

    South/North is still better to me personally (no offense to your hard work or thought you put into this) but it seems like the NorCal teams are going to bitch until they get their way.
     
  7. Timbuff10

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    I am still betting what happens is the PAC does a schedule like the one that Bohn presented. It just makes the most sense and keeps the most rivals together. CU and UTah obviously need to be in the same division with ASU and UA for the simple fact that the geography makes the most sense. Then the next closest are the two LA schools. This allows for the NW schools to at least make the trip to NorCal every year.

    The other format that comes in second place in terms of making sense is to put CU and Utah in with the 4 NW schools and keep all the CA schools in the other division with the two Zonas and I really dont think the NW schools will go for that.

    Anything other than those two formats and you break up too many rivals or are just making it too awkward and basing things off of the current competitive levels which shouldn't play into this at all.
     
  8. OKCBuff

    OKCBuff Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. I'm sure someone smarter than me will come up with the optimal solution. But I just wanted to see how a detailed conference schedule could look. Ultimately, I based this off two things:

    1. Keeping all the California schools playing each other annually (its only fair to them)
    2. Ensuring that there's one NorCal and one SoCal school in each division so that all schools have ties to both sides of the state every year. It's important for exposure and recruiting.

    Yeah, so I saddled CU with WSU. Obviously they can put together whoever they want into the fixed format. I tried to do this as a neutral observer so I like to think I was fair to all 12 schools.
     
  9. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    I like the zipper and the North/South and the Nik option.

    It got me thinking about what would be a worse case scenario might look like. Now that the threat of replacing Baylor and joining the B12S has come and gone, it's tough to define a worst case scenario.

    #1 worst case: Play 11 conference schools and CSU
    #2 Be placed in a division that consists of WSU, UU, OSU, UA and ASU.

    Fortunately, neither of those lousy options are even being discussed.
     
  10. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I like it. It has CU playing somewhere in California every year - either NoCal or SoCal. There's plenty of CU alumni in NoCal too and that's a good recruiting area as well, so anything that would get us more exposure across the state is fine with me.
     
  11. Illuminatus!

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    I like the proposal. The only problem is that 9 conference games means that half the league gets the advantage of an extra home game each year. But I don't think that is insurmountable.
     
  12. boulder77

    boulder77 Certified Organic Club Member

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    Pac-10 has that situation now, so they are accustomed to it. Personally, I don't care as long as we're in the Pac-12 in 2011.
     
  13. MiamiBuffs

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    Your employer must be so proud. Did you email that excel file to your boss?
     
  14. OKCBuff

    OKCBuff Well-Known Member

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    Actually, yes. He responded with something about needing to bring my lunchpail and not forgetting my horns.
     
  15. CUBuff98

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    lol!
     

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