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Nebraska adds 6 staff positions for football recruiting

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    This move by Nebraska creating additional recruiting support staff positions and funding appears to be paying off. Time will tell, but the 2015 football class is stacking up well, and the 2016 class looks to be even better according early interest shown the program by recruits and their families.

    Money can't buy everything, but it can help sell a program.
     
  3. DBT

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    I thought staff size was limited by the NCAA, especially for recruiting.
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Emails, snail mail, phone calls, twitter & Facebook messages, texts are all able to be done by staff members other than the official coaching staff. All they really can't do is go on the road.

    Throw in all that goes into organizing the board, arranging travel, planning camps, contacting high school coaches, hosting visitors... a deeper recruiting support staff can make a huge impact in recruiting.
     
  5. TDbuff

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    6 seems like overkill and spending money just to brag about it.
     
  6. Highlander

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    If 6 at $50k/year (thinking kids right out of college) could get you two extra 4 stars a year, is it worth it?
     
  7. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    They'd be making way less then 50k. Grad assistants maybe?
     
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    kNU needs all the help it can get/buy! Recruiting to kNU was easy when you could show off recent MNC trophies and dazzle 'em with success. That would make a kid overlook the s*@thole that is Linkin as well as the overblown concrete silo of a stadium and tractor barn they have as an indoor faciltiy.

    Also 8-4/9-3 records, due to stealing a couple of games from B1G middleweights, while getting blown out by the B1G big boys, isn't cutting it for Bo. Franklin at State Penn, Fitzgerald at NW, Dantonio at MSU and Meyer at tOSU, are all better coaches than Bo; so Bo needs all the help he can get.
     
  9. TDbuff

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    If that was the result, probably worth it. I just see diminishing returns at a certain point the more staff people you add. More Organized and more frequent tracking and correspondence can only make so much of a difference. 6 people just seems like a lot.
     
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    The classic issue here is that it only works when you are on the front end of doing it. If everybody does it, you simply have to participate to keep up. I have no idea what the right number is, but these kids seem to like the twitter and FB and whatever other contacts the staff can make without being a recruiting violation, so I would be all in on trying something like this. You could start with interns sort of like Flounder suggested (I believe you are only allowed so many grad assistants).
     
  11. Swish

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    What is the size of our recruiting staff?
     
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    Thanks and yeah we need to do what is necessary to stay up with the pack on this. One thing we don't need is to take a fall in recruiting where we seem to be making very humble progress.
     
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    Blue chips are attention whores. If every other team follows suit and CU doesn't we will fall behind even further.

    Can CU do something like this first or we will drag our feet until every team in the PAC does? Not sure if I like it, but it's how the game is played today.
     
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    Can't a computer do all of that but the phone calls?

    Since the NCAA is letting the schools make the rules, I guess it'll only get worse. If I were Emperor of College Football (EmCoF), I'd restrict all of this crap.
     
  16. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    No. A computer is a tool that makes 1 person a lot more efficient but has also expanded the amount of work involved since there are many more ways that a recruit needs to be contacted. It's a lot of work. And if competitors have 8 people doing this instead of our 2, they're able to message recruits much more effectively than we can.

    Until CU designs and builds "Recruiting HAL 9000", we need staff for this stuff.
     
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    Just like the Cold War the I expect the big programs will start a spending arms race and it will damage middle sized programs and probably destroy small programs. They'll be even less parity then there once was.
     
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    Since Nebraska has labeled their guys regional assistants, I wonder if they're really committing to recruiting nationally, because they have to now. They don't have the prestige they used to, and they're kind of in no-man's land in their own region. They might realize that they really need 8 dedicated people to cast the net they need to be potentially successful now.
     
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    This is the direction everything is going. The non-Power 5 conferences need to join forces...maybe create their own network? But there will definitely be a much larger gap between the 2 tiers in the BCS in the years to come. Is our admin aware? Up for the challenge? History says no, but time will tell.
     
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    With a large enough staff you can really stiff the competition; it could have an explosive impact.
     
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    There still are scholarship restrictions though. I see this more as a ploy for middling programs to try and become elite. Does USC need 6 recruiters? They have the name and prestige. Do the bugeaters? Does CU? Yes to both of the latter teams.

    But the big boys will have to adapt as the 2nd tier and below programs do the same. The amount of elite recruits isn't changing. It may sway a few people towards different programs, for now. Don't see it having a large institutional impact in the future.

    Except blue chips will become even more prima donnas.
     
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    Based on personal experience:
    The dorms we are housing football players in are pretty spartan. Rehabbed, but small. 2 guys in a room with 2 desks, closets and single beds. Bathrooms and showers down the hall. Think Hallett Hall.

    KU has their athletes in what amounts to really nice apartments, with their own bathrooms, etc. Luxurious and private. Crazy nice in comparison.

    Don't know where the other programs are, but I can say for sure that a recruiting trip to KU would have some serious wow factor when kids are shown where they will live, compared to CU.
     
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    Aren't special "athlete dorms" illegal?
     
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    Athletic dorms have to be at least 51% non-athletes.
     
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    I'm thinking stipends. Sponsorships, use of likenesses, participation in the workforce, cars, apartments as mentioned above. If the P5 uses its autonomy and those legal rulings, if the player unionization moves along, its going to start to become about the perks and dollars in recruiting. And like I said, the schools where the AD has a positive balance sheet will begin to crush the schools that are dependent on the general fund.

    Think about it this way. If your Jeremy Bloom and your going to make all this money off of modeling and skiing while in college why take a scholarship at CU when you can walk on somewhere flashier and get more visibility? Or think of someone like Deion Sanders.

    I think we're on the precipice of the slippery slope. If this isn't well managed in consensus by the P5 it could end badly because while each conference has one or two "haves" they also have 10 "have nots". The direction the SEC takes should be telling.
     
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    Six mores guys to get fired when Bo P loses his job after a 8-5 season. Calling that shot now, BTW.
     
  28. Burrito Palazzo

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    Actually, they were behind in recruiting. The needed 6 to do the reading/typing of 2.
     
  29. FLounder

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    Florida has a ridiculous athletic complex. All the athletes are in a dorm that's attached to their own cafeteria.
     
  30. Burrito Palazzo

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    Is that why they lost to FSU last year?
     

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