1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Nembot Redshirt?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by fervorfactor, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. fervorfactor

    fervorfactor Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011
    Messages:
    739
    Likes Received:
    35
    What a physical specimen! Talent and potential but really lacking in technique and an understanding of the game. He might get way better playing this year but I think a red shirt is the best route for him. He seems to be learning quickly. Your take? I'd think it would be great to save him a year.
     
  2. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2009
    Messages:
    6,245
    Likes Received:
    664
    I believe that unless the kid is going to play a significant amount of time, it's best to take a red shirt year to develop completely physically and have that extra year of high level coaching.
     
  3. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    10,139
    Likes Received:
    1,595
    True, but Embree wants to get his best players experienced and ready to help CU climb out of the cellar next year and the year after. We got seniors that can help us win now, but most of us on here don't see us going bowling. The future of this team will see the field a lot this year. Just my opinion, but one I've formed by watching position battles that seem to favor youth over knowledge.
     
  4. Rraalph 3000

    Rraalph 3000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    3,651
    Likes Received:
    79
    Redshirt him....If he played another position that wasn't so stacked already I'd say you got to play him, but with a DL that is already the most deep and skilled position on our team it would be foolish to burn his redshirt now....ESPECIALLY if they're also going to burn Juda's
     
  5. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,553
    Likes Received:
    207
    Isn't the 2012 recruiting class going to be really big numbers wise? I am not sure they want to redshirt him and make next year's class even larger.

    If he can work into the 2-deep, I bet he plays.
     
  6. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    25,784
    Likes Received:
    1,351
    I'm betting that a good majority of next years class takes a red-shirt, so he really won't affect their numbers.
     
  7. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Messages:
    7,378
    Likes Received:
    688
    How does redshirting a guy affect class size? It doesn't free up a scholarship...
     
  8. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    10,139
    Likes Received:
    1,595
    I'm going to go out on a limb on this one and add another wrinkle:

    Nembot will move on to the NFL after 4 years.
    He will have a more productive time here as a Buff by learning on the field this year.

    Don't get me wrong, would rather he redshirt, but I get the feeling he's not and it has little to do whether he's in the 2 deep come Hawaii. Embree thinks he will be in the two deep come midseason.
     
  9. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,553
    Likes Received:
    207
    For example:

    2011 class will be seniors in 2014, unless they redshirt. If a 2011 player redshirts, they would be a senior in 2015.

    So if 10 players from the 2011 class redshirt - that adds 10 players to the 2015 senior class.
     
  10. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    39,577
    Likes Received:
    4,546
    I think several redshirts will be burned. If we can get experience at key positions (WR, DL, maybe OL) then next season looks better.
     
  11. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Messages:
    7,378
    Likes Received:
    688
    Okay, but your post referred to the next year (2013). His redshirt doesn't affect that. Maybe you meant a future year.
     
  12. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2008
    Messages:
    56,878
    Likes Received:
    4,903
    If he can pick up technique, then hell yes he plays this year. In the scrimmage, I saw slavin try and block him and he just CRUSHED him. I bet he's a regular in the rotation starting mid-season. We will need to rotate in a ton of guys this year. It will be a long campaign.
     
  13. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,553
    Likes Received:
    207
    Delete
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2011
  14. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,553
    Likes Received:
    207
    It certainly could affect a future year. We don't want to get into a situation where we have 35 seniors leaving the program, and we can only sign 25 players in the next recruiting class.
     
  15. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    48,401
    Likes Received:
    4,420
    Play him if he'll contribute. Redshirt him if he won't. With the number of seniors on the DL, it might make sense to try to get him some PT to get him used to game speed this year.
     
  16. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    13,076
    Likes Received:
    2,491
    He's probably too valuable in subsequent years to redshirt him, so it's likely this year to redshirt or never (barring injury). If he can make a difference this year, play him. But don't get into a Nick Kasa situation... /shudder
     
  17. MontanaBuff

    MontanaBuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    187
    Nembot is still learning the game, and the Buffs have six - six! - senior defensive linemen. As much as I would like to see the Buffs have a winning record this season, it's hard to imagine that Nembot would see enough playing time to justify burning his red-shirt

    If the question were re-phrased: "Would you rather seen Nembot in for 65 plays as a freshman, and be done in 2014, or would you rather have Nembot sit out this fall, and in 2015 play as a sculpted, dominant, All-Pac-12 defensive lineman in 2015?", I think I would opt for preparing this raw talent for the future, and have him learn the game this fall.
     
  18. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    13,131
    Likes Received:
    1,134
    I just want to see wins. And if that means sitting seniors to play freshmen because the freshmen are better, or if it means redshirting guys, or if it means sacrificing a live chicken, I don't care. Just. ****ing. Win.
     
  19. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    13,076
    Likes Received:
    2,491
    According to the DC, Nembot will not redshirt, but will play alot of ST:

     
  20. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    241
    I assume blocking kicks like Solder used to do when he was a frosh?
     
  21. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    13,076
    Likes Received:
    2,491
    I think you're right, I've seen him in punt block formation
     
  22. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2008
    Messages:
    56,878
    Likes Received:
    4,903
    I bet he works his way into the rotation as the season goes on. Need as deep a DL as possible.
     
  23. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    11,930
    Likes Received:
    1,378
    Mutha****ing this!
     
  24. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2010
    Messages:
    31,643
    Likes Received:
    4,338
    How will they use him on special teams? A good question to ask Joel & CJ on 102.3 today.
     
  25. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2008
    Messages:
    56,878
    Likes Received:
    4,903
    AB already answered your Q tho...
     
  26. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    11,930
    Likes Received:
    1,378
    Moar punting questions!
     
  27. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2010
    Messages:
    31,643
    Likes Received:
    4,338
    Be sure to ask them about using soccer chants at a football game.
     

Share This Page