Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by buff4bcs1985, Sep 27, 2012.
The AD really knows how to support Embree with recruiting...
Sucked the air right out of the room
This is like me studying. Just keep putting it off, and putting it off, and putting it off...
If it is ANYTHING like tini's study habits, we're ****ed.
Well we're going from January, Febuary, Spring Game, Summer, September, and now Spring so it's pretty close
As disappointing as this is, remember - it could be worse. We could be CSU, announcing a facilities plan without any money in hand or a plan on how to get it. I'm comfortable with waiting for the Spring if it means we have all the financial stuff in place first. Do it right. Don't be stupid.
Highly disappointed hearing that
Maybe. Did he say what year?
Really have been expecting this since the last "announcement of an announcement for an announcement" that was made late this past summer.
No close to my study habits
Agreed we should be doing it right, but wish we were doing it right, now.
Nothing new, but just points to signs that the Admin is clearly just not helping out or providing the proper support.
What's the difference? They've been announcing the announcement over and over again, so backing off now or even reducing the scope from the original plan will be seen as a huge failure by most IMO.
I am beginning to have hate in my heart. The ones who suffer are the ones who have suffered. We are but a few. The passionate. Oh, but that it were not true! But here, we are. Our hopes renewed. And then dashed. As it were a sneeze suppressed.
We'd all like this to be announced right now. Me included. However, I understand what's happening. The guys in charge want all of their t's crossed and i's dotted before putting themselves out there, particularly with a difficult legislature and a tax-resistant public. Perhaps this is overstaing it, but when the announcement is finally made, the bulldozers should be ready to roll within hours. I get it. Avoid the pushback, the public discussion, the drama. Hold off announcing, and act fast when you do announce.
On the other hand, I can also understand the frustration. CSU talks a big game, gets the press. One after another of the Pac-12 schools lay out their comprehensive plans. All the while, we keep getting dates when an announcent will occur, and then we see a walk-back from that schedule.
Where our esteemed leaders went wrong was to open their mouths in the first place, before they had their ducks in a row. Raising expectations (for example, telling recruits of planned changes, indicating that an announcement would be made in September, etc.) got them in a hole. It looks like their plans to round up the dollars, as well as the political (Regents, legislature) support has taken longer than they expected. So now we're on hold. Once again.
Personally, I'm still optimistic about a landmark announcent. Very optimistic. Even with a football team that's struggling. I'm prepared to wait a little longer. Also, as for how it affects recruits, I think we all know that CU's record on the field will have a lot more to do with attracting blue chips than an indoor facility, parking garage, new weight room, and renovated Folsom/Balch.
It's going to happen. Just not on our schedule.
So how ****ing long are we going to wait? We're getting passed up with every passing day. It's pathetic. I don't think people are saying we should follow CSU's model because that's a bad strategy but god damn they just keep pushing it back every time they were supposed to make the announcement.
Like it or not, the situation is that even people who cheer for CU sports as casual fans can't wrap their heads around spending over $100 million on football facilities when the economy sucks and tuition is so high they can't afford sending their kids to a state college. The money may come from a different kitty, but the situation doesn't feel right and the facilities project idea rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
Part of this needs to be blamed on our tightwad donorship. Pretty sure that if the AD had the money to build the type of indoor practice facility that we all want, it would have been announced by now. We have some rich CU guys out there who are sitting on their money for whatever reason. The economy is part of it, but we've never connected with our wealthy donors. Whatever the gripe is with the direction of the football program, the cure all would be new top notch facilities. There is a huge game of chicken going on, and it's costing us time, recruiting, and wins.
I was at the event tonight and I could be wrong but I have a feeling the facilities upgrades will happen. I sensed it when Bohn was speaking.
I seriously think he was sincere when he went out of his way when he brought up the topic. I was expecting no news at all so for him
to mention it IMHO was big. I'm probably 80% sure it will happen. Not a matter of if but when.
He mentioned it at the March luncheon. 7 months later we're still waiting for even an announcement...
This is the issue, succinctly put.
My guess is that it will happen and very quickly ground will be broken after the announcement. It may not be a very popular and I do not agree with it, but politics may be playing a role here. The politcal season is in full swing with adds constantly running about debt levels, poor educational funding and all of the negative mud slinging. Benson is a consumate politician and may be playing this right. We are a very avid bunch of supporters and focus on the positives but there is a crowd out there that would use this against CU. Get the elections over, let the mud slinging end, and have the state focused on moving forward. Breaking ground would not happen until the Spring anyway so announce it then after all of the negativity is off the airwaves and break ground days after the announcement. It does not mean that it cannot be used in recruiting. I am sure that the plans, drawings and models are being put in front of recruits. It may just make sense in the minds of the politicos that are running the admin to wait until the whole election cycle ends.
Fire away, I know this sounds like I am making excuses for the admin but I am looking for possible rationale reasons.
I agree. Architectural firms have been hired. It will happen.
Remember how silent CU was re: joining the Pac 10 ? Baylor was yapping about and we as fans were freaking out?
Well... CU did that the right way so I'm going to trust while our little brother goes about their business the wrong way Colorado
will get it done.... just not as fast as any of us want.
Doesn't it make more sense to announce in the spring when you can break ground? Doubt much would be getting done with snow all over the ground, leaving the decision and arm chair academics to bitch and moan for a whole quarter out of the year.
I feel like some... there was an air of confidence from Bohn that this will get done. Timing is important though. Announce when you can break ground that day.
Meanwhile in Allen, Texas the Eagles high school football team is 4-0, out scoring their opponents 155-54. This small community of 87,473 people voted to float a $60 million bond to build a new 18,000 seat stadium next to their indoor practice facility.
Colorado is a state with a population over 40 times larger than this suburban community in Collin County, Texas. And our major university has tens of thousands of alumni from coast to coast. Yet we can't get our minds around spending on the success of college athletes who, week in and week out, compete against teams from across the nation that are spending to win.
Colorado gets what it pays for: a team that is lucky to be 1-3.
There's a systemic problem here too. CU is very bad at creating any sort of enthusiasm for the football program throughout the community or engaging the student body. Losing is a big part of that, but so is marketing. Combined with their inability to cultivate a strong donor base, this is a long term problem. Imagine being a senior this year at CU...what part of the last 4 years would make you even the least bit inclined to be a future donor?
Other schools seem to be able to pull it off.
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