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No Huddle Offense - Time Killer or Significant?

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  1. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Couple of the articles about the spring practices have noted that CU is installing or at least running a lot of No Huddle. Even if it is only due to the fact that CU does not have their starting TE's in the future fall 2 deep on campus yet, I for one am gonna say HELL YES!

    I remember several games last year when it came time for a 2 or 4 minute drill to win or tie, and CU... had no drill. They just ran their regular offense and hoped for the best as time ticked away.

    3 years into Hawk's reign, CU will have a complete offense. Took to long, but hell yes, I am excited to see what this team can do. And if CU is going to install enough of the offense to run a couple series of it a game, then even better as it should confuse opposing defenses a bit.

    Other thoughts?
     
  2. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    I like the idea of a "no huddle" from time to time. Anything that can be used to get a defense off balance and add dimension will make the Buffs harder to beat. The keys are to know when to do it and not overdo it.
     
  3. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    A distinction needs to be made with no-huddle and hurry-up offenses. There can be a difference. There are some teams that run a no-huddle, but still use a good portion of the clock. I'm interested to see what Hawkins/Helfrich have in mind.
     
  4. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    I consider the Hurry Up a specific application of the No-Huddle Offense (as in, a very specific set of plays designed to keep the clock from bleeding and gain yards in bunches).

    Is this wrong? Once you have any form of a No-Huddle Offense, it SHOULD be quicker at getting plays off than a traditional one. If anything, a hurry up is simpler as now that I think about it, the difference in the new No-Huddle offenses is that the plays can be changed by the sideline after the offense lines up. That time waster would probably be cut in extreme clock situations.

    We did not have any form of the no huddle last year. Since the No-Huddle they are running now includes no TE's, I assume it is a pass heavy form that of course, would be very useful for a Hurry Up.

    An additional note: Now that we supposedly have depth on the O-Line, we could run the No-Huddle without fear of wearing our own biggies down.
     
  5. OUBuff

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    Given the nature of modern football, I think it is necessary to control tempo.
    The ability to set tempo is vital and serves to get inside the opponent's decision cycle.

    Oh, fun to watch too! :thumbsup:
     
  6. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Club Member Club Member

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    As long as we don't turn into Texas Tech of the North. I'm all for setting the Battle Rythym, and they are exciting to watch, but they clearly have no ability to run the ball when they need/want to.
     
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  7. Buttermaker

    Buttermaker Active Member

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    Another advantage to the No Huddle offense is that it limits defensive substitution. We are in an era of defensive specialization (ie pass rusher, run stopper, coverage LB, etc) and the No Huddle combats that. Even the threat of running another play quickly by not huddling stops defenses from substituting.
    Mizzou and KU do that very effectively while eating a large amount of clock and even running the ball a lot of the time.
     
  8. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    yes. this is why i am excited about it.

    presume for a minute that our staff believes that our team is the best conditioned team on the field. now also presume it is a home game and in the second half and the other team is starting to look gassed from the altitude and everything else. going to a no-huddle right there and limiting their ability to substitute could be the coup de gras. it doesn't mean we are going to be throwing it all over the yard ala t-tech. you can go no-huddle and still run the ball. i think this could be devastating.

    hell, ou broke down in the 2nd half at folsom because our guys outworked them in the trenches. throw in an offense that won't let them get a breather and you are talking dangerous.
     
  9. SuperiorBuff

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    A well run no huddle can easily blow 3-4 time outs for the opposing team as well as 2-3 illegal substitution penalties and still chew up clock. I love it.

    Run 3-4 plays with a traditional huddle, get a first down and on second run a no huddle in a situation where the defense would use subs. Good play calling with the no huddle and decent execution could devastate defenses in Boulder early.
     
  10. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    3 to 4 timeouts?

    Whuh?
     
  11. SuperiorBuff

    SuperiorBuff Well-Known Member

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    Most teams get 3 per half.
     
  12. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    hmmm. no foot in mouth emoticon. damn, I need football season to start soon!

    So what teams get less?
     
  13. SuperiorBuff

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    :rip: cornholio :rip: who else?:smile2:

    No worries.
     
  14. fcjack1

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    True true. I think part of the reason that the KU and Mizzou offenses run so well is they have mobile qb's. Cody didn't really take off much last year so i couldn't really gauge his running ability. I'm sure if it's a setback at all then it will be a minor one. Either way, i'm looking forward to it.
     
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    It's a positive from a couple perspectives. Aside from the advantages listed above, running the no-huddle in practice will help get the defense adjusted to it so when we're playing KU, MU, OU (heard they're doing the same thing in their Spring practices), or whoever, we'll be better prepared for it.
     
  16. fatbuff

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    Matt was going to put one in, but he thought you would wear it out on the political board:lol:.
     
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    Another advantage of not letting them substitute (in addition to gassing them), is if you identify that there is a mismatch in your favor with whatever defensive personnel they have on the field. Then you switch to no-huddle and exploit that mismatch.
     
  18. MiamiBuffs

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    What? Did you expect him to just wave his magic wand and erase 4 years of bad recruiting on offense? Ha!
     
  19. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    Another thing that this indicates is that the staff is confident enough in their QB play, leadership, decision-making, and playbook knowledge to let them do this. You don't run a no-huddle unless you're certain that your QB can do it.
     
  20. FChairbanks

    FChairbanks muthaka slayer Club Member

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    i like the idea of practicing the no-huddle. anything that will allow our offense to control the tempo of the game is going to be an improvement. calling signals from the sidelines will force the players and coaches to stay focused and will hopefully prevent the loss of stupid timeouts due to lack of preparation or proper personnel on the field. plus it may just be a game saver in those close games where we need to push the ball 30-40 yards to keep the other team out of field goal range (or put ourselves into range) in the final minutes of a close game.

    keep it up hawk!

    :thumbsup:
     
  21. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    you really are like that fat kid on the playground, huh?
     

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