Yup. Denying that just hurts the credibility. Sure the offense is great, but defense is the better predictor, at least this year.
AllBuffs | Unofficial fan site for the University of Colorado at Boulder Athletics programs
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
-
Prime Time. Prime Time. Its a new era for Colorado football. Consider signing up for a club membership! For $20/year, you can get access to all the special features at Allbuffs, including club member only forums, dark mode, avatars and best of all no ads ! But seriously, please sign up so that we can pay the bills. No one earns money here, and we can use your $20 to keep this hellhole running. You can sign up for a club membership by navigating to your account in the upper right and clicking on "Account Upgrades". Make it happen!
Official Coaching Search Thread
- Thread starter slider
- Start date
The two biggest reasons Washington isn't in contention for the CFP is because they only scored 16 points against Auburn and 10 points against Cal.
Maybe that’s what it takes...
Which indicates you cannot make the playoff with poor offense, nothing else.
Look through the Top 25. There are a lot of top defensive teams in there.
Umm.. okay. And the biggest reason these two teams are in the championship game is because they play the best defense.
Sure, but while the other schools seem to have the best of both worlds, OU and OSU are right there with only 1 loss with horrible defenses. I think we can agree that to truly be a contender you need the a great offense and a great defense, but I don't think there's anything that suggests defense is more important
A championship game that means nothing on a national level?
Maybe not significantly more important, but you and Nik seem to be pushing this narrative that offense rules everything now. Nothing really seems to be showing that to be the case.
You know the coaching search is starting to turn when the political posts start filtering to the top of the page.
...because EVERYONE’s D was do good?? Or more likely EVERYONE’s O was so inconsistent.A championship game that means nothing on a national level?
Removing the two outliers from the CFP top 10
Offense (removed ND and LSU) - Average ranking of 11
Defense (removed OU and tOSU) - Average ranking of 13.25
How do any of the number suggest that defense is the better indicator?
Offense (removed ND and LSU) - Average ranking of 11
Defense (removed OU and tOSU) - Average ranking of 13.25
How do any of the number suggest that defense is the better indicator?
Okay? and your point is?A championship game that means nothing on a national level?
Take the NFL. I don’t think you will ever see a team win again like say the Ravens did. Suffocating defense while Dilfer hands the ball off. The game has changed and the rule changes benefit the offense.
You need a good defense though to be successful to support your offense.
You need a good defense though to be successful to support your offense.
I think that's the direction things are going, yes.
the Day is over ....done ...finished ...kaput
That if you want to play for the CFP, you need to score points, something Washington couldn't do consistently this year, even though they are playing for a meaningless conference championship (meaningless on a national level).
But based on what? Offense is definitely important, but nothing suggests it is all you need in college football.
For this to be meaningful, in terms of change, we'd need it to be compared to history.
You need to score points and STOP the other team.
You are relying on outliers to prove a rule.
And I've never said as much. I'm fully aware that defense is a very important component of success. I just believe if you have an elite offense and a solid defense you will be in contention, but probably not the other way around. I think Wisconsin and Michigan in recent years are prime examples of this.
For the top four, a big maybe.
I realize you view anything short of the playoff a failure, but that is not the case. You can have a wildly successful season without making the playoff.
I hear that, but I'm looking for the evidence that shows the game has changed in that way. I'm skeptical.
I just think he is saying O is more important. D is still important but not as much. I think if you started in the 80’s you would say D was more important but over time that has flipped. Back then the O supported the D and just tried to not **** up. Now the D tries to support the O. All rule changes favor the O so this isn’t unexpected.
Just the rule changes in general. Everything favors the O. That is all levels.
Watch a game from 5 years ago or 10. He’ll a replay of a Barnett game. The game is different.