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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

Just the occasional young person griping about Gen X-ers.
Interesting. Anecdotally I have noticed a lot of tension between Millennials and Boomers, but I haven't seen anything directed toward Gen X. I'll keep my ears open.
 
I played soccer when I was 10 years old in 1970. Everyone I knew played soccer. It was going to be the next big thing that was going to overtake baseball and football (sorry, American football) in popularity in the U.S. Then Pele came to play in the US and it's time had come, but that faded pretty quick. Professional leagues came and went while participation in the sport has continued to grow, but nobody wants to watch it no matter how many people kept saying it was the next big thing. Boomers grew up with soccer, we played soccer, we know soccer, and prefer not to watch it like most other Americans. When we are gone, that isn't going to change. So get the soccer ball off my lawn.
Eurpoean soccer already gets better rating than Baseball and Hockey. It will pass basketball in the near future. But good try.
 
I feel as though my generation (Gen X) has underperformed in the global realm. I don't know any Gen X'er that feels as though our generation has contributed significantly - so I guess I would have to disagree with the assertion that we overvalue our accomplishments. What is your reference on this line of thinking?
On the other hand, the was never a generation better equipped to deal with the Covid quarantine year than the first generation of latch key kids.
 
the ncaa as a governing body is kaput. the conferences can let the networks and distributors drive the train or they can try to do so.

the networks and distributors are driven SOLELY by revenue generation models.

the conferences (excluding the sec) have other considerations. a scheduling alliance and playoff system announced among all but the sec ENDS this power grab. full.stop.

that's how you **** up ESPN and the sec.

this is what i will hope for until proven otherwise.
Too bad they were able to f*ck Jeremy Bloom
 
I feel as though my generation (Gen X) has underperformed in the global realm. I don't know any Gen X'er that feels as though our generation has contributed significantly - so I guess I would have to disagree with the assertion that we overvalue our accomplishments. What is your reference on this line of thinking?
I was just saying this the other day. These guys predicted it. It is an incredible book.

 
Not surprisingly, making sure USC wants to stay in the league is Kliavkoff's priority:

To secure enduring West Coast harmony, Kliavkoff must keep the most valuable, most desirable football schools happy. The list starts exactly where Kliavkoff’s tour began. It starts with USC:

— The Trojans have won more national championships during the poll era (seven) than all other Pac-12 schools combined.

— They are the dominant program in the largest college football media market in the country. (New York City doesn’t have a major college team.)

— Their biennial home game against Notre Dame is the most valuable regular-season property on the Pac-12’s inventory shelf, walloping the Oregon-Washington duel, for example, in the ratings game.

In the expansion equation, the Trojans are to the Pac-12 what Ohio State is to the Big Ten and what Texas is — err, was — to the Big 12. They are the keystone in the Pac-12 arch.

Remove USC, and the entire structure collapses.

 
What? The younger population already watches soccer and as they become a larger percentage of the population the ratings get bigger and bigger. It has been happening for a while now.
If that’s the case, it’s the increase in interest in soccer among young people causing an increase in ratings, not the death of boomers. And probably it’s more likely immigrants from poorer countries where soccer is one of the only sports they can play that are really driving the supposed increase in popularity.

You are operating under the mistaken impression that every boomer dying will be replaced with a soccer fan and that is not the case. It literally does not work that way.

Also, I googled MLS ratings. The average MLS game gets 250-300 viewers per game. The Alabama spring game got over 547,000 viewers.

So while soccer might be getting more popular, Americans would literally still rather watch an elite football teams practice than a real soccer game.

As far as the generation x debate goes, they were raised by baby boomers. If your parents were from a generation that’s proudest achievement was a rock concert and who are responsible for the absurd 40 is the new 20, 60 is the new 30 idiocy, you’d probably be a little disaffected and weird too.
 
This excerpt from Chuck Klosterman's Sex Drugs and Coco Puffs seems appropriate both for the GenX and the Soccer components of this conversation. I highly recommend the entire article if you can find it.

I've spent the last fifteen years of my life railing against the game of soccer, an exercise that has been lauded as "the sport of the future" since 1977. Thankfully, that dystopia has never come. But people continue to tell me that soccer will soon become part of the fabric of this country, and that soccer will eventually be as popular as football, basketball, karate, pinball, smoking, glue sniffing, menstruation, animal cruelty, photocopying, and everything else that fuels the eroticized, hyperkinetic zeitgeist of Americana. After the U.S. placed eighth in the 2002 World Cup tournament, team forward Clint Mathis said, "If we can turn one more person who wasn't a soccer fan into a soccer fan, we've accomplished something." Apparently, that's all that matters to these idiots. They won't be satisfied until we're all systematically brainwashed into thinking soccer is cool and that placing eighth (and losing to Poland!) is somehow noble. However, I know this will never happen. Not really. Dumb bunnies like Clint Mathis will be wrong forever, and that might be the only thing saving us from ourselves...

Soccer unconsciously rewards the outcast, which is why so many adults are fooled into thinking their kids love it. The truth is that most children don't love soccer; they simply hate the alternatives more. For 60 percent of the adolescents in any fourth-grade classroom, sports are a humiliation waiting to happen. These are the kids who play baseball and strike out four times a game. These are the kids afraid to get fouled in basketball, because it only means they're now required to shoot two free throws, which equates to two air balls. Basketball games actually stop to annihilate them.

That is why soccer seems like such a respite from all that mortification; it's the one aerobic activity where nothingness is expected. Even at the highest levels, every soccer match seems to end 1-0 or 2-1. A normal eleven-year-old can play an entire season without placing toe to sphere and nobody would even notice, assuming he or she does a proper job of running about and avoiding major collisions.

Soccer fanatics love to tell you that soccer is the most popular game on earth and that it's played by 500 million people every day, as if that somehow proves its value. Actually, the opposite is true. Why should I care that every single citizen of Chile and Iran and Gibraltar thoughtlessly adores "football"? Do the people making this argument also assume Coca-Cola is ambrosia? Real sports aren't for everyone. And don't accuse me of being the Ugly American for degrading soccer. That has nothing to do with it. It's not xenophobic to hate soccer; it's socially reprehensible to support it. To say you love soccer is to say you believe in enforced equality more than you believe in the value of competition and the capacity of the human spirit. It should surprise no one that Benito Mussolini loved being photographed with Italian soccer stars during the 1930s; they were undoubtedly kindred spirits. I would sooner have my kid deal crystal meth than play soccer. Every time I pull up behind a Ford Aerostar with a "#1 Soccer Mom" bumper sticker, I feel like I'm marching in the wake of the Khmer Rouge.

That said, I don't feel my thoughts on soccer are radical. If push came to shove, I would be more than willing to compromise: It's not necessary to wholly outlaw soccer as a living entity. I concede that it has a right to exist. All I ask is that I never have to see it on television, that it's never played in public (or supported with public funding), and that nobody -- and I mean nobody -- ever utters the phrase "Soccer is the sport of the future" for the next forty thousand years.
 
This excerpt from Chuck Klosterman's Sex Drugs and Coco Puffs seems appropriate both for the GenX and the Soccer components of this conversation. I highly recommend the entire article if you can find it.

I've spent the last fifteen years of my life railing against the game of soccer, an exercise that has been lauded as "the sport of the future" since 1977. Thankfully, that dystopia has never come. But people continue to tell me that soccer will soon become part of the fabric of this country, and that soccer will eventually be as popular as football, basketball, karate, pinball, smoking, glue sniffing, menstruation, animal cruelty, photocopying, and everything else that fuels the eroticized, hyperkinetic zeitgeist of Americana. After the U.S. placed eighth in the 2002 World Cup tournament, team forward Clint Mathis said, "If we can turn one more person who wasn't a soccer fan into a soccer fan, we've accomplished something." Apparently, that's all that matters to these idiots. They won't be satisfied until we're all systematically brainwashed into thinking soccer is cool and that placing eighth (and losing to Poland!) is somehow noble. However, I know this will never happen. Not really. Dumb bunnies like Clint Mathis will be wrong forever, and that might be the only thing saving us from ourselves...

Soccer unconsciously rewards the outcast, which is why so many adults are fooled into thinking their kids love it. The truth is that most children don't love soccer; they simply hate the alternatives more. For 60 percent of the adolescents in any fourth-grade classroom, sports are a humiliation waiting to happen. These are the kids who play baseball and strike out four times a game. These are the kids afraid to get fouled in basketball, because it only means they're now required to shoot two free throws, which equates to two air balls. Basketball games actually stop to annihilate them.

That is why soccer seems like such a respite from all that mortification; it's the one aerobic activity where nothingness is expected. Even at the highest levels, every soccer match seems to end 1-0 or 2-1. A normal eleven-year-old can play an entire season without placing toe to sphere and nobody would even notice, assuming he or she does a proper job of running about and avoiding major collisions.

Soccer fanatics love to tell you that soccer is the most popular game on earth and that it's played by 500 million people every day, as if that somehow proves its value. Actually, the opposite is true. Why should I care that every single citizen of Chile and Iran and Gibraltar thoughtlessly adores "football"? Do the people making this argument also assume Coca-Cola is ambrosia? Real sports aren't for everyone. And don't accuse me of being the Ugly American for degrading soccer. That has nothing to do with it. It's not xenophobic to hate soccer; it's socially reprehensible to support it. To say you love soccer is to say you believe in enforced equality more than you believe in the value of competition and the capacity of the human spirit. It should surprise no one that Benito Mussolini loved being photographed with Italian soccer stars during the 1930s; they were undoubtedly kindred spirits. I would sooner have my kid deal crystal meth than play soccer. Every time I pull up behind a Ford Aerostar with a "#1 Soccer Mom" bumper sticker, I feel like I'm marching in the wake of the Khmer Rouge.

That said, I don't feel my thoughts on soccer are radical. If push came to shove, I would be more than willing to compromise: It's not necessary to wholly outlaw soccer as a living entity. I concede that it has a right to exist. All I ask is that I never have to see it on television, that it's never played in public (or supported with public funding), and that nobody -- and I mean nobody -- ever utters the phrase "Soccer is the sport of the future" for the next forty thousand years.

I bet Chuck Klosterman cringes every time this diatribe gets trotted out. After all, he wrote it in 2003, in a world of pre-Trumpian politics, and Chuck is hardly on the side of the Glenn Becks and Ann Coulters of the world.

That's right, hating soccer is a passion of the ugly American right. With its hipster (i.e. intelligent) fanbase, its emphasis on nuance, and its appeal to all those damn foreigners. Do you really want to be on their side?
 
I bet Chuck Klosterman cringes every time this diatribe gets trotted out. After all, he wrote it in 2003, in a world of pre-Trumpian politics, and Chuck is hardly on the side of the Glenn Becks and Ann Coulters of the world.

That's right, hating soccer is a passion of the ugly American right. With its hipster (i.e. intelligent) fanbase, its emphasis on nuance, and its appeal to all those damn foreigners. Do you really want to be on their side?
soccer sucks
 
soccer sucks
This Up Here GIF by Chord Overstreet
 
Can someone, for the love of Ralphie, prune this soccer discussion from this thread?

I think soccer is incredibly boring because it is. It has nothing to do with politics, xenophobia or who I voted for...honestly, is there any opinion safe from the smug, self-appointed moral superiority of the PC crowd?
 
I bet Chuck Klosterman cringes every time this diatribe gets trotted out. After all, he wrote it in 2003, in a world of pre-Trumpian politics, and Chuck is hardly on the side of the Glenn Becks and Ann Coulters of the world.

That's right, hating soccer is a passion of the ugly American right. With its hipster (i.e. intelligent) fanbase, its emphasis on nuance, and its appeal to all those damn foreigners. Do you really want to be on their side?
Soccer Player GIF


Nuance
 
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