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OL Update and Your Thoughts

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by BuffClass90, May 21, 2014.

  1. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    If Callahan can play this year (let me know if he cannot) and Irwin plays, how drastically does this change your view of the 2014 season?

    I've thought for a while we are a functional OL away from being a decent/good team, and it looks like the OL is on its way.

    I could see us winning 4-5 games before (CSU, UM, UH, Cal and/or Utah). I think if the OL performs well, we could sneak a win against OSU or AZ and be bowling.

    Someone talk me down if I'm delusional please :lol:
     
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    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Callahan vs CSU would help solidify a win there. Irwin playing for the first time in 1.5 years and at LT is asking for trouble. An OL of Callahan, Crabb, Kelley, Munyer, and Nembot is much better. Plus if Irwin's healthy that allows us some versatility to move around OL if Nembot and Kelley are ineffective
     
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  3. CUFan

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    Don't ever get your hopes up when it comes to CU. Furthermore, even if Callahan can play this year we are still talking about two guys who are pretty new to PT/starting. I also assume our oline will take some time to gel. Furthermore, I'm not so sure we have many playmakers while relying on a soph QB.

    This is great news, but we are likely still going to struggle this year. I'm putting my hopes on 2015.


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  4. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    Interesting. Do you think if the OL doesn't turn the corner this year that we seem to have the talent now for a breakout season next year?
     
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    Still think we need the interior D-line to step up to allow Gillam to make more plays.
     
  6. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Sorry to spill the koolaid but that OL is still probably near the bottom of the Pac-12. In '15 we'll be replacing our 2 best OL in Crabb and Munyer.
     
  7. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    I would say you're a buzzkill, but I've been a Buff fan too long.
     
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  8. MtnBuff

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    Huge difference between Callahan starting and Irwin starting.

    Callahan is a natural LT, Irwin looks like a high potential OL but don't know if his best position will ever be LT, we are talking about him there because up till now the best other option has been Mustoe who also hasn't been playing due to injury.

    Irwin (and Mustoe) as mention not only don't have playing time at the college level but also have very limited practice time due to injury. Callahan hasn't been starting but he did get some playing time last year for Auburn and as significant has two full years of practice time against Auburns defensive line which is as talented as anything most of our opponents would hope to be able to throw at us.

    Callahan's presence also means that Irwin is available to compete at other spots on the OL. We are much less just looking for 5 guys who won't embarrass us badly on the field.

    Starting the season I can see Callahan and Nembot at the tackles, Crabb at one guard, Kelley or Munyer at Center. The other guard filled by Irwin or by the JC transfer (spaced his name and not looking it up.) This does mean though that if Nembot continues to struggle we may even see Irwin over there.

    I also wouldn't be shocked to see Mustoe develop into a fairly solid back-up at tackle and push Nembot by the end of the year as well. His biggest issue is getting back from his health issues rebuilding size and strength.
     
  9. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Don't take my word for it, I don't pay much attention to other Pac-12 team's OL's. If Callahan lives up to his billing and Nembot can actually improve, that's probably our best overall OL in years
     
  10. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    Is there any consensus this will be a better OL than last year? If so, will it make much of a difference?
     
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    Claims the OL is at the bottom of the PAC 12...confesses he doesn't pay attention to other OLs in the PAC 12. Interesting...(I'll now wait for words to be put in my mouth)

    I feel good about the interior of the OL. Callahan has been going against NFL DEs in practice since he got to Auburn so if he can play and wins the starting job this fall I'll feel good about our LT. Nembot is my biggest worry if Callahan can play this fall.
     
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    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    I knew when I posted that tini would come criticizing it. How surprising
     
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    Just pointing out a very obvious flaw in your logic
     
  14. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    No you're nitpicking when my original point of CU having a bottom Pac-12 OL is clearly true. But thanks I guess? BTW CU and Cal are the only two Pac-12 teams without at least one 1st, 2nd, or HM OL
     
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    You're delusional. Has nothing to do with football.

    Semper Gumby
     
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    It seems we are always hoping and praying that when (fill in the blank) shows up, the Buffs will show real improvement. That said, Callahan is likely an upgrade over any OL in the roster. If he can play next year, CU should be in pretty decent shape, especially if Irwin comes back in the manner hoped for.

    LT- Callahan
    LG-Munyer
    C- Kelley
    RG-Crabb
    RT-Nembot/Irwin

    Would look pretty good. Possibly Wieffels beats out someone on the interior OL. Mustoe as a back up OL gives CU some quality depth. Hopeful, but still thinking 4-5 W's, even if Callahan plays.
     
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    Am I the only one that's not optimistic that Callahan will be eligible?
     
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    Just give us this short period of hope.
     
  19. MtnBuff

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    Don't backwash the kool-aid, we are on a roll.

    That little reality bug in the back of my mind keeps reminding me that the NCAA has never been big on doing this kind of stuff but at the same time I have a pretty good feeling that it is a real possibility.
     
  20. Duff Man

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    I think people should be prepared for a lot of growing pains on offense in 2014. Really young/inexperienced pretty much everywhere.
     
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    Youth and inexperience is no excuse!!!

    Or so I have read over the years. So....
     
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    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Not an excuse to field the worst offense in the league or be consistently bad.
     
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    Someone has to be...
     
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    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    True. Only 1 or 2 seniors will start and there are only a couple more in the 3-deep. Very young offense.

    But to the original question:

    I feel a lot better about the OL due to quality competition versus relying on a single guy. Irwin hasn't played in a while and is recovering from injury. Sully has never played D1 football. Callahan hasn't seen many snaps since his 2011 high school season. We need competition and not to be putting all our eggs in one basket. If Callahan ends up being eligible, I think CU has a chance of having an average Pac-12 OL this season. We won't be starting any teenagers for the first time in a long time.
     
  25. MtnBuff

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    Very fair assessment of the situation. Also have to be realistic about what an offense looks like after losing a reciever who was far and away the most talented guy on the team and losing a LT who was clearly the best offensive lineman.

    Even with those issues there is some reason for optimism. We have a returning QB who we know can be at least competent and competitive. We have a returning WR in Spruce who while nothing like PRich is a solid producer. We also have some incoming talent that overall is better than what we have seen in recent years with the few exceptions already noted (hard not to be better unfortunately.)

    Key to the whole thing for me is can we field a reasonably competitive OL. If it turns out that we don't have a LT we are in big trouble. Callahan may not be eligible, Mustoe is still recovering and has never performed at this level, and Irwin is coming off injury and has never played at this level. The only OL we have who I know can perform at this level consistently is Crabb. Munyer has played and is talented but lets just say he wouldn't be inked in as the starter at most PAC schools, Nembot has been exposed and the rest are all potential. Potential means they haven't done it yet.

    On the other hand if the OL turns out to be reasonably solid I think Adkins can work effectively and Sefo has some tools to work with. We won't be dynamic but we could be better.
     
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    What are the circumstances that would have Callahan being eligible to play for CU in the 2014 season?
     
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    Just read about it in Barzil.
     
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    Championship!!!
     
  29. buffaholic

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    I didn't read the rest. We have no f'ing idea what either one of these guys can really do. Irwin played a few as a freshman at guard. Callahan hasn't done anything yet but give Maxipads a chubby. I'm hopeful, but I've had that bashed in before.

    As buzzkill says above, we are still near the bottom of the PAC12 and I'd guess the very bottom.

    Same is true at a lot of positions. WR would be dead last in the conference any way you slice it. Could they have a good year? Sure. But average BCS teams would be freaking out about now.
     
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    Awesome.
     

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