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Pelini - Keeping it classy at Nebraska

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  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    You should be ashamed to accept that trophy!

    In the wake of Nebraska's 13-12 loss to Texas in the Big 12 title game -- a game marked by Colt McCoy's last-second throw out of bounds that may have ended the contest -- Nebraska defensive coordinator Carl Pelini was quite heated, via Omaha.Com, as he screamed at Texas players "You should be ashamed to accept that trophy!" and "BCS, that's why they made that call!"

    We'll update as the spew rolls in.
     
  2. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    What "call" is he talking about?
     
  3. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Certainly the "missed" call about there being 1 second left?
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    The second being put back on the clock. :lol:

    Here's the whole story http://www.omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED/712069849:

    Carl Pelini marched off the field, advanced a few steps into the dark tunnel.

    Then he turned back toward the euphoric Texas celebration at midfield.

    His emotions burst.

    “You should be ashamed to accept that trophy!” the NU defensive coordinator yelled, pointing at the Longhorns.

    “You outta be ashamed to accept that trophy!” he screamed again, then again.

    Seconds later, his younger brother erupted, too.

    Bo Pelini had played it cool walking off the field, telling Texas coaches to go win a national title.

    But he heard about a conflict at the threshold of the tunnel. Seemed a Texas fan and somebody from NU had exchanged words.

    Bo marched toward the scene. Who was it? Bo wanted to engage the Texas fan.

    Told nothing happened, he went back toward the locker room, where he saw Marc Boehm, NU assistant athletic director.

    “Marc, I want to see (Big 12 head of officiating) Walt Anderson in there right (expletive) now!” Pelini shouted.

    “BCS!” Pelini said as he entered the locker room. “That's why they make that call!”

    Nebraska lost another heartbreaker to Texas Saturday. You saw it. Felt it.

    What you didn't feel were the post-game aftershocks reverberating through the concrete tunnels of Cowboys Stadium.

    It hit hardest the Pelinis, who nearly orchestrated a monumental upset.

    The reason why they didn't, according to Bo's and Carl's immediate reactions, was the officials' decision to add one second to the game clock after Colt McCoy's last throw out of bounds.

    Originally, the clock expired, sending a flood of Nebraska players onto the field. But a review changed that call, led to Texas' game-winning kick and sent the Pelinis into madness.

    According to Dan Beebe, Big 12 commissioner, officials did the right thing.

    According to Walt Anderson, officials did the right thing. Where was the clock when the ball hit something out of bounds?

    “There was a second left,” Anderson said.

    But nothing or nobody could convince Bo Pelini.

    “I want an explanation!” Pelini yelled outside his locker room.

    Standing in that tunnel quietly watching him: Harvey Perlman, Paul Meyers, Eric Crouch.

    “Get Coach Osborne down here!” Pelini said. “Can you go get Coach Osborne?”

    Minutes later, Athletic Director Tom Osborne walked slowly toward the locker room in black trench coat. He entered the double doors to meet Pelini.

    From outside the doors, one word could be heard loudest: “Cheaters!”

    Then Osborne strode back to the field, where Texas was wrapping up its trophy presentation. En route to midfield, Osborne said to a World-Herald reporter: “Where is Dan Beebe?''

    Beebe was standing at the 40-yard line talking to Assistant Commissioner Ed Stewart, a former Nebraska All-America linebacker.

    As Osborne reached Beebe, the commissioner extended his hand. But Osborne didn't shake it. Osborne pointed at Beebe and said, “Would you go see Bo? Right now?''

    By then, Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman had come on to the field. Perlman and Osborne walked with Beebe off the field and down a stadium tunnel.

    The three exchanged no words on the walk. Down the tunnel, Osborne walked three steps in front of Beebe and Perlman walked to Beebe's right.

    As Osborne walked, The World-Herald asked if Nebraska would appeal any part of the game. His answer: “I don't know.''

    Beebe went immediately to the post-game press conference and waited for Pelini.

    Pelini lightened up a bit during the question-and-answer session. He even cracked a joke. But when he left, Osborne called to him.

    “Bo! Bo! Dan Beebe's here.”

    Beebe suggested he and Pelini talk in private. They walked into a quiet area near some shiny SUVs, 100 feet from anyone else. Yet Bo and the occasional curse word could still be heard.

    Osborne watched the meeting with Pelini's brother, Vince.

    Time ran out, Vince told him. They took it from us, Vince said.

    Osborne, whose facial expression never changed, calmed him: “I've been on both ends.”

    Pelini's meeting with Beebe lasted just a couple of minutes.

    Beebe wouldn't reveal the details of his conversation with Pelini — “That's between he and me” — but Beebe said he understood why Pelini was upset.

    At that point, Beebe hadn't seen the controversial play, but he'd been on the phone with Big 12 staff, who said officials got it right by adding one second to the game clock.

    “I'll be more comfortable when I can see it,” Beebe said.

    Any concern the call is perceived as conspiratorial?

    No, Beebe said. From the reports he'd heard, “there was time when the ball hit the ground.”

    By that time, Carl Pelini had cooled off. He stood outside the locker room, back against a wall, heaping praise on his defense like never before.

    “They played like champions. And they are champions.”

    A reporter asked Carl what this one felt like, to lose in that way.

    “I only had one emotion,” he said. “Anger.”

    --World-Herald Staff Writer Lee Barfknecht contributed to this report.
     
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  5. DBT

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    Is it just me? I could easily believe that Pelini is just one major meltdown waiting to happen. I mean the kind of meltdown that harms his school and potentially gets him canned, a la Woody Hayes.
     
  6. Rraalph 3000

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    There was definitely 1 second left....get over it
     
  7. Sportsfan101

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    After watching the last play a couple of times, I don't think the last second should have been added. I think Nebraska got screwed.

    I can't believe I just wrote that.
     
  8. HotRack

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    Mangino - Part Deux, perhaps?
     
  9. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

    Classy. If, by classy, you mean immature, unprofessional and mentally unstable...
     
  10. Rraalph 3000

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    Once the ball touches out of bounds, the play is dead....double zero's didn't happen on the clock until the ball bounced a 2nd time on the ground....plain as day & an easy call
     
  11. Darth Snow

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    fake controversy imho. and I hate both teams. The whistles blew when the ball was in the air, and the ball hit the ground with 1 second left. whats the problem? Stop bitching and find an offense fuskers.
     
  12. AlferdJasper

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    I watched and couldn't tell. I thought the game had ended when the ****ers rushed the field. When they added a second back on, ONE SECOND ... oh holy Toledo, I was conflicted.

    What I hate is any game ending, especially a championship game, on someone's subjective opinion.
     
  13. OUBuff

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    Alla Woody Hayes or Bobby Knight. Pelini is one out of control character. Every time I watched Mangino I could just visualize him dropping dead on the sideline from a coronary... I watch Pelini and see stroke.
     
  14. OUBuff

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    I don't think it was subjective at all.

    Truth is bad calls are made all the time. Lets go to the ball being down on the 2 yd line when UT was returning a KO. The returner clearly never possessed the ball yet UT was stuck w/ that call. Not sure how that could have affected the game, but I am sure that was going to be a return for TD. :rolleyes: In a Texas fan's perspective.
     
  15. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    You have video evidence of the football hitting the ground before the clock went to double zeroes. That's "objective" evidence, not "subjective".
     
  16. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    I'm sure the screaming Pelini brothers had no problem with the bad call on the UT kickoff return being deemed "not reviewable".... :rolleyes:

    I agree that call wasn't subjective. But I also agree that I hate when these type of games end on subjective calls (see Miami/Ohio State pass interference...)
     
  17. AlferdJasper

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    Question then.

    If the ball is thrown out of bounds, doesn't the clock stop end THEN, when it crosses the line, and not when the ball hits the ground? Then I can see the 1 second.


    Either way, lots for the ****ers to discuss for the next few months. They was robbed! It was for the BCS ratings ... Meh, give me a break.
     
  18. Junction

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    There was still 1 second on the clock when the ball hit the ground out of bounds. Either way, it was the correct call...
     
  19. DBT

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    A no doubter. Hey, the UT kid still had to hit the FG. Wouldn't it be nice to have a kicker that could make those kicks? :huh:
     
  20. Duff Man

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    Correct. FYI, the play is not blown dead until it hits the ground.

    No doubt. You notice that both teams had very good kickers? But I am sure that is just a coincidence.
     
  21. dio

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    I just watched the replay, and there is no question that there was 1 second left... it was close to 2 seconds left compared to 1 second left.
     
  22. buff envy

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    I'll take a coach that actually fights for his team instead of one that talks in zen.
     
  23. buff envy

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    This is why they were mad.

    This is the rule on limiting reviewable plays:


    Quote:
    Limitations on Reviewable Plays
    ARTICLE 6. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.
    However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those
    involving the game clock
    , whether or not a play is reviewable. This excludes
    fouls that are not specifically reviewable (Reviewable fouls: Rules 12-3-2-c
    and d, 12-3-4-b and 12-3-5-a).
    That is the crux of the matter. No one will dispute that video showed 1 sec as the ball hit out of bounds, thus making an incomplete pass.

    But the clock never stops precisely at the same time the ball hits the ground. There is always delay. So, the question remains...does what happens in every game, a 1 second delay between the ball falling incomplete and the clock stopping, suddenly rise to the level of egregious error?

    Apparently it does, when you have TX refs favoring the home town team and the Big 12 needs a team in the NC game.
     
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    So would I, but that's not the subject of the thread. The pelini brothers were upset, but to stomp there feet screaming for anyone and everyone from the big 12 and then going back out and saying you don't deserve the trophy? Cheaters?

    Did they ask for Obama too?
     
  25. dio

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    :lol:

    poor wittle nubs fan!
     
  26. Duff Man

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    Bitching on a CU site.:lol:
     
  27. zbuff

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    Maybe instead of whining about a clock on a play that gained zero yards, fuskers should worry about that great defense that let texas get in field goal range. Who would they cry to if they'd just kicked on the previous down? Poor babies. Like I said before, pretending they should have won - after scoring only 12 points. This is all just pathetic bs. Enjoy your bowl game and get on with life.
     
  28. Junction

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    When you have tape showing the clock at 1 when the ball hits the ground???

    This crybaby whining act would be far less comical if the team claiming they got robbed had cleared 100 yards in total offense before the last 2 minutes of the game.... :lol::lol::lol:
     
  29. buffsyko

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    Yep, it's a conspiracy against nebraska :lol:

    I hear their having a group hug at huskerpedia, go join them.
     
  30. AustinTxBuff

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    When that 1 second is the difference between allowing a team to run one play (that they deserve to, since there's still time left in the game) to win the game, and not allowing them to run any more plays, yes, that's an egregious error.
     

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