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Regarding B4L influence on the last coaching search...

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by CenturyBuff, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. CenturyBuff

    CenturyBuff Member

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    'Tini linked this article in the Mac radio show thread.

    http://www.denverpost.com/cu/ci_16747008

    Here's some interesting quotes out of this article:

    So, while this article show B4L pushing EB, it would seem the denials by Klatt & Co about influencing Bohn and the committee should be falling flat.
     
  2. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    EB was totally lost as the OC. Why the hell would CU consider him for head coach?
     
  3. DrunkPanda

    DrunkPanda Active Member

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    i'm curious what staff eb told them he could put together.
     
  4. PhillyBuff

    PhillyBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Read the date.... Then delete your post....
     
  5. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    IF somehow EB is named head coach of CU it will be time for me to turn in my fan card. This can't be serious.
     
  6. L Buff

    L Buff Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left Club Member

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    You're an idot.
     
  7. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    The articles are from 2 years ago. It is just showing the influences that were going on at the time.
     
  8. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    Ah, never mind. I thought this was recent. Didn't want to click the link and give the ass hats at the DP any traffic.
     
  9. PhillyBuff

    PhillyBuff Club Member Club Member

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    You need more white- out.....
     
  10. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Probably Brown at DC, Embree at OC, Cabral at LB.
     
  11. CenturyBuff

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    Should have made it clearer that it's about the 2010 search. Just trying to show Klatt & Co's contradiction on their current claim they didn't influence Bohn during the last search in 2010
     
  12. Ozbuff

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    :lol:
     
  13. Ozbuff

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    I still don't understand why Bohn gets a pass because he was influenced by Buffs4Life. Someone please explain. He has no business being AD if he can't take the fall for his decisions, irrespective of who influenced him. Now if the argument is that the other programs such as basketball have been successful under his watch I can understand that (to a degree). But giving him a pass because hiring Embree wasn't his decision doesn't make any sense. We need the AD to know that coaching decisions have consequences. The same principle applies to head coaches. If Embree had hired more experienced coordinators there's a good chance he'd still have his job, but guess what, he picked his staff and had to live with the consequences.
     
  14. GoonieBuff

    GoonieBuff Not really Club Member

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    I don't think Bohn gets a pass - though i realize there are those who feel that way. Plus, the evidence strongly points to a lot of the B4Lifers being vitriolic hypocrites right now, and I'm sick of the denial.
     
  15. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Not giving him a pass but giving a reason why he should get one more chance. In a time when money was tight, it looks like he was trying to make them happy and secure donations and it backfired.
     
  16. CenturyBuff

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    I hear what you're saying Oz, but this is not about giving Bohn a free pass. I'm pointing out Klatt & Co's denials this week that they were not trying to influence Bohn during the last search. I think the above quotes show they were. Granted, this article was about EB, but I think the connection to them pushing that the hire had to be in the family was there.

    There's also this one:

    This is in regard to Mac being interested in the job, but again, it shows the pressure to hire within the family.

    This article also talks about JE or EB being B-list candidates. Most articles I've read about the 2010 search talk about how limited CU was with the candidate pool and finances.
     
  17. Ozbuff

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    I agree with that. I'm not defending how some have reacted by any means. I also think firing Embree was absolutely the right decision. The question for me is whether Bohn deserves more time. That I'm not so sure about.
     
  18. Ozbuff

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    But isn't giving him one more chance effectively giving him a pass for the Embree hire? Why should he get to hire a third HC if the first two were considered failures? I understand that some things (e.g. finances) were outside of his control, but that's part of the job. With unlimited funds I suspect Embree could have put together a more experienced staff.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Embree had one of the highest assistant coaches salary in the Pac 12, so that doesn't fit with the whole money thing. Embree just doesn't appear to have enough connections.
     
  20. 93Buff

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    The funny thing is....EB would have been a better head coach....but with experienced coordinators. He is not an OC. But his passion is great.
     
  21. Ozbuff

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    If Buffs4Life deny trying to influence the decision to hire Embree (or EB) that doesn't make sense. It seems clear from media reports at the time (not saying the media is always accurate) that they clearly influenced the decision. Again, I don't agree with how some of them have responded to Embree being fired, but I also think a lot of it stems from the fact that Bohn has been retained. They're incredulous because they can't understand why their guy (Embree) was fired after two years while Bohn is going on 8 years and NONE of Bohn's football decisions have resulted in success on the field.
     
  22. Ozbuff

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    Fair enough, but, again, isn't giving Bohn another chance effectively giving him a pass? Is it otherwise fair to let him hire a third HC when the first two were failures? Very few ADs are given that opportunity.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Eh not really. I can't remember them off the top of my head but someone had a list of them on this site earlier in the week.
     
  24. CenturyBuff

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    My point in this thread was to show the B4L's current denial of trying to influence the last coaching search is revisionist history.

    Although speaking of Bohn, yes he and Benstephano really painted themselves into a corner in the last 7 years.

    What's funny is that we would never likely have had Hawkins had Barnett accepted the contract extension in 2005 that was on the table. Someone posted elsewhere today that GB didn't sign it, "then pulled an Embree" over the last 3 games of '05.
     
  25. boulder77

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    So, Oz, seriously, what would the other option be? To fire both Embree and Bohn? Then, CU has to do a search and hire an AD first, then the new AD has to do a search and hire a new HC ...... And, if the school were to hire a new coach before they hired the new AD, who would want that job? Any AD worth his/her salt would want to be in on the hire. I understand where you're coming from. But, it seems to me that they kind of had to do it this way. I think we all agree that Bohn's legacy - and employment status - will rest on this hire. Did he get a free pass? Maybe, but the fact is that he didn't get fired. So, let's all hope he gets it right, or we'll be having a vigil on here tracking AD candidates.
     
  26. CenturyBuff

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    Well, maybe we should follow Mac's suggestion and fire Bohn and rehire JE.

    Then we could bring in a new AD...who would promptly fire JE again then mac could go on the radio again, and blah blah blah
     
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    Reading that really reminds how bleak the options were back when they made the worst hire ever. What makes it worse is seeing Kevin Sumlin mentioned in that article. They should have done whatever it took to make that happen. You're welcome for that one A&M...
     

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