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Saturday, December 21st - Get your popcorn out!

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Buffnik, Dec 17, 2013.

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Bigger Game on Saturday?

  1. MBB vs Oklahoma State

    44 vote(s)
    64.7%
  2. WBB at Louisville

    5 vote(s)
    7.4%
  3. Damned if I know. Just pass me the popcorn.

    19 vote(s)
    27.9%
  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Men's Basketball:

    #20 Colorado plays #7 Oklahoma State in Las Vegas
    9:30pm MT on ESPN2

    Coaches have CU at #24 and OSU at #7.

    Colorado RPI is #6
    Okie Lite RPI is #11

    RealTimeRPI predicts a 82-78 CU win.

    Sagarin has CU at #27 and Oklahoma State at #1
    KenPom has CU at #31 and Oklahoma State at #3

    The metrics guys love Okie Lite this year and aren't sold on the Buffs as an elite team.

    Women's Basketball:

    #11 Colorado plays at #7 Louisville
    11am MT (not televised nationally)

    Coaches have CU at #14 and Louisville at #7.

    Colorado RPI is #27
    Louisville RPI is #5

    RealTimeRPI predicts a 71-84 CU loss.

    KenPom and Sagarin don't do WBB.

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    Both games are absolutely HUGE for national perception, NCAA Tournament seeding, recruiting and just about anything that matters to a program other than conference standings.

    Taking out any consideration for how MBB is a bigger enterprise in terms of ratings, attention, crowd draw and the overall ink it will get, which game do you think would be a bigger win for the respective CU programs to vault it to the next level?
     
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  2. SECOBuffsFan

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    I am really looking forward to Saturday night.....seems like another classic is headed our direction
     
  3. 4thGenBuff

    4thGenBuff Active Member

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    Got to give this one to the girls. If they beat Louisville at Louisville, maintaining their undefeated record, they should fall into immediate consideration as a top 5 team. Huge!
     
  4. cubuffs85

    cubuffs85 Active Member

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    How the hell is the women's game not nationally televised, ESPN 3 not even? I mean the two teams in the top 11, after CU beat Louisville last year. Is it on TV at all?
     
  5. cubuffs85

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    The poll question is tough, I mean the men's program is bigger, but the women have their premier OOC game. I'm sure a win for them would be bigger considering that's a team that played in the Finals last year.
     
  6. wyobuff

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    I'm looking forward to it as well. I think that watching dinwidde battle smart will be a lot of fun, and I'm really thinking that tad could go big against these guys because of their lack of height in the front court. DT and ben mills could see a fair amount of minutes in this game, and if they put someone short on XJ, he's going to have a field day (Honestly though, I think he will anyway - he lives for games like this).
     
  7. sackman

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    If the Men can pull out the win, it'll be freaking huge. That's a national spotlight kind of game. It's the kind of thing that actually makes kids decide they might want to come to CU.
     
  8. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Many may be bigger MBB fans but in terms of respective seasons it's impossible to argue that the MBB game holds more importance for their season than the WBB game does for theirs. They are equally enormous opportunities to stake a claim to being upper echelon programs.
     
  9. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    This. The men have one marquee win already. The women need theirs. Let's hope they get it.
     
  10. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I'll take both.
     
  11. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    I will be drinking during both. Does that count?
     
  12. L Buff

    L Buff Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left Club Member

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  13. Buffalo Brad

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    Prestige for MBB but bigger for the women's program. Win both and we start to get the recognition we deserve as a bball school in general. I am all in for both!
     
  14. mattrob

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    The Louisville game probably has more impact on this season, but beating two top-10 teams in 2 weeks catapults the men's team to a whole new level, IMO. An Okie State win validates the Kansas win, rather than the “Oh well, they had one coming" stance ESPN took after the Jayhawks game. I'm not sure the women's team is quite ready to make that kind of jump in national perception.
     
  15. 4thGenBuff

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    Girls are ranked higher than the boys and they are undefeated. Not sure if I understand your perception point?
     
  16. Shldr2Shldr

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    I think he is getting at the likely hood that a win @ louisville would put the women in the top 5.
     
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    When will Tad and the boys leave for Vegas? With a game this big, I would hope they arrive by Thursday to give the team a chance to practice and get acclimated
     
  19. FightCu1414

    FightCu1414 Fifth year Senior Club Member

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    Finals go through Thursday, so I am guessing Friday.
     
  20. Shldr2Shldr

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    Only two exam times tomorrow. 7:30-10am and 10:30-1pm. My guess they fly out tomorrow evening
     
  21. BuffTuba

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    Is there a both games are just as big to each team? As a school-wide/nationwide perception, with no disrespect to the ladies, I think MBB would be bigger due to media coverage alone. If WBB got the coverage or if the game was even on TV(damn shame its not) then it would be bigger IMO.
     
  22. mattrob

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    When looking at this season alone, yes, it could vault the ladies to a pretty lofty ranking and provide a signature win. That's huge this year. In terms of overall perception, I feel like the tournament showings of the men (including the Pac12 tourney) have garnered them a little more national respect and another big win could have many viewing CU as one of the premier basketball schools in the west. I don't get that same feeling with the women's program yet, although, to be fair, that may be due in part to the fact that MBB as a whole gets so much more attention.
     
  23. cubuffs85

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    I think the question is more with respect to their respective programs. For example, if CU is competing in the National Ski Championships and the mbb is playing Arizona State on ESPN 2 (just a hypothetical). The latter is bigger, but from a program standpoint the Ski championships are bigger for that program.
     
  24. MarkW

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    Glad to see the women getting some attention here. They have a huge challenge ahead of them with Louisville. Adding to the task of playing a solid team on the road, the Buffs are going to do so coming off of finals which always seems to mean they will come out of the gate a bit slow.

    Last season's win over Louisville was in part due to playing some serious defense and rebounding well. If the Buffs are going to have a chance this season it will need to replicate that part of the game. Having said that, I have a feeling this game will be relatively high scoring. CU's offense this season is humming along quite well, producing almost 80 points a game. Four players are averaging in double figures led by junior forward Jen Reese at 13.5 while hitting 59.4% of her shots from the floor and over 90% from the line. She has a deadly mid-range jumper which is where a lot of her points come from.

    So, I won't be surprised if CU scores over 75 in this game, but the question is will they be able to limit Louisville to something around that as well?
     
  25. sliderNcider

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    I agree
     
  26. Shldr2Shldr

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    Buffs leaving this afternoon, had practice today at CEC.
     
  27. buffedup

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    Rooting big for a Buffs win, but I'll always have a soft spot for the pokes after the plane crash many years ago that took so many promising young lives.
     
  28. buffgal

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    Both teams have to show they can beat ranked teams on the road. However, the men's game is at a neutral site. The women's game is at Louisville. Louisville has not forgotten that CU upset them last season. Therefore, I think it is a bigger game, although both are big games. I can not believe the women's game is not televised nationally, only on a local station in Louisville.
     

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