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Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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  2. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    hawkins was a ****
     
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    Sigh...
     
  4. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    Can you sue a coach for malpractice?
     
  5. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Only if he's a real coach...if he's a fraud, you can't.
     
  6. JWP303

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    Sampson didn't have the twinkle in his eye. I mean, sure, he could play football... But no twinkle.
     
  7. Tractor

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    ::Sigh::
     
  8. TDforTD

    TDforTD Banned BANNED Club Member

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    rofl
     
  9. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    that whole staff was ****ed on so many levels. with all due respect to cabral, because he's the guy who is there, while HCs come and go, and therefore cannot be viewed as variable factor from staff to staff, the hawkins era coaches collectively sucked dead green donkey balls.

    yes, some have gone on to success elsewhere but together they were unprecedented in their collective and total ****tiness.

    what a nightmare. if the p12 hadn't come along, i would seriously be wondering how we would ever get out of this hole. at least now we can throw some money at the problem.
     
  10. boulder77

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    Even if he came to CU DII would have effed it up and move him to FB.
     
  12. J.R. Ewing

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    Don't even get me started on his handshake...
     
  13. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    That would could be beast of a FB if he could move.
     
  14. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    And we still have coaches on the staff that were from that era. That's the embarrassing part of it.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    And yet the article states that Hawkins was the one who was there and walked out when they found out he had surgery so I'm sure it's Brown or Cabral's fault.
     
  16. CVilleBuff

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    Might want to re-read. Clearly states it was an assistant
     
  17. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    u should learn how to read better. 2nd time in a week I've owned you on this.
     
  18. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    has anything EVER came out positive about anything hawkins did while here? I am drawing a blank
     
  19. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    What else did you own me on this week? Other than the fact that you hate Brown I don't recall.
     
  20. Kameltosis

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    To be absoultely fair and the voice of reason...all schools do this on a case by case basis. You only get so many scholarships and when you have 2 or 3 guys you're looking at to fill a posistion, you have to weed out based on facts. The kid had a bad ACL tear and was small at the time of his recruiting....in that situation sometimes it's a no brainer to go another route based on your recruiting needs. Yes, Hawkins was a terrible coach but don't feel too bad about not being able to read the future and know that this guy was going to be a really good OL.
     
  21. Alfred91

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    That's about what I was going to point out. It's too bad for us and good for the kid (and ASU) that he has turned into a big-time contributor for the Sun Devils, but he very easily could have also been a nobody who could never been able to get over his injury. I am no Hawkins apologist, but this seems to me to be a case of woulda coulda shoulda.
     
  22. Kameltosis

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    Now, with that being said.

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  23. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    There is a difference between going in another direction and simply dismissing an in-state prospect the minute you hear he has had knee surgery. That is how you burn bridges quite quickly. Even if you are unsure about the prospect, at least keep tabs on him and show him you care a little bit.

    It is not too much to ask for a coaching staff to put in a little extra effort on in-state prospects. This is not the first instance where in-state prospects have called out the previous staff for ignoring them.
     
  24. MtnBuff

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    ^^This^^

    You have a kid who is certainly at least worth looking at, he got at least the offer from ASU and maybe from some others. We also know that he really wanted to be a Buff. It's hard to ignore that part of the deal.

    It is one thing to say that you have a limited number of schollies and aren't sure of the knee or the size but it isn't like he would have taken the place of a multi-time All-American, our recruiting classes weren't that deep.

    With his desire to be a Buff you get creative. Ask him to grayshirt and take an extra year to rehab the knee. Make the deal contingent on the knee being reasonably solid and him gaining some weight in the time out. The article sounds like he would have been good with a deal like that. Instead we blow off a kid who turns into a pretty good football player and likely created some bad feelings with his HS coach and school as well.

    To steal a line from Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as Hawkins does."
     
  25. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    i never thought i woud say this, but we're at the point that CU would be better off taking a few risks on in-state kids who have potential. the quality of colorado hs football has improved dramatically over the last 20 years. CU will always have to go to texas and california for recruits but, given where we are, and the improving nature of the recruiting base in-state, a guy like this is the type you might want to take a shot on in the future.
     
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    And the real damage isn't in losing the kids they didn't pay enough attention to like Sampson, it's not having a chance to get kids now who don't even have CU on their radar because Hawkins and Co burned so many bridges in the state.
     
  27. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    i once heard a great former coach at CU say that he liked for the program to find at least one kid a year from in-state from a small high school who had some athletic ability. he said that taking the one kid a year like that paid huge dividends with the entire hs coaching community and that if they found a kid with some athletic ability, then they'd always be able to find a place for him to play, even if it was just special teams.
     
  28. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Correct. Then that mistake is compounded because you let a program like ASU build good relationships with high school coaches. A team that just happens to be a divisional opponent now.
     
  29. OrangeBowl

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    Great points about grayshirting...not to add more salt to the wound,but also think about the walk-ons that recieved schollies around that time that could have been used more wisely
     
  30. BuffLuKe

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    Too disappointing to even comment on. Sigh is right.
     

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