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Spoke with someone who knows a lot of the team yesterday...

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Darth Snow, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    and they said that most players aren't saying anything out of Loyalty to the TEAM (note: NOT COACH), and that NONE of them (except for Cody and his circle of friends...) are saying anything positive about Hawk... I asked my friend straight up if it sounded like they believed in the coach, and all they could do is shake their head no....

    Second hand info, but it does corroborate a lot of stuff we have seen on the field and heard elsewhere.

    This person also said some things about the personality of Cody that I shall not repeat here :lol: ... :cry:
     
  2. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    Unless we have the same friend, I heard pretty much the same thing on Sunday. Most players staying quiet. Many don't want to say anyting in front of a player, that could end up telling daddy...err coach.
     
  3. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    If you're not gonna repeat it, why say that?
     
  4. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    To stir the pot. It's just internet chatter. Nothing to get in a twist over.
     
  5. Gateway

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    I don't think Cody is as well liked with his teammates as everyone thinks he is or hopes he is.
     
  6. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    all this stuff comes boiling up when failure is occurring.

    i've learned this lesson the hard way in the business world.

    previously rational and fair-dealing execs sometimes become bottom-feeding self-interested trolls when a crisis happens. i watched it up close and personal at a large failing public company some years back.

    the best advice i got at the time from a mentor was that it was similar to england pre-ww2. they thought churchill was a crappy peacetime prime minister but when the **** hit the fan they wanted him in the driver's seat. leaders are often revealed by the adversity that they face. some are great when things are going ok but cannot handle it when it blows apart.

    this was comforting to me at the time because i was under intense pressure and it was complicated by the fact that a previously reasonable exec had suddenly turned into something else.

    i don't know if hawk has ever been under this type of pressure. he doesn't appear to be dealing with it particularly well right now, but he could rally. barnett, by comparison, knew, from experience, how to rally the troops and circle the wagons. you need inspirational leadership. you need a plan. you need to deal straight with everyone because everyone's bull**** meter is on the uber-sensitive setting.

    we will see.
     
  7. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    below...
    To get that point across. No need to drag the dirty laundry fully into the air.
     
  8. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    yup. all evidence points to the anti-churchill in Hawk :cry:
     
  9. chipwich

    chipwich Administrator Club Member Junta Member

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    If they can manage to rattle off a few wins this **** will all go away.

    I never say "must win" but the Wyoming game is just that.
     
  10. Timbuff10

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    If the first two debacles weren't must wins, then WHAT IS?

    He has already proven that he has lost the team. We know what kind of coach he is now and we have seen it over the past few years. Even if he turns this thing around and goes 6-6 or makes some toilet bowl, that changes nothing to me. The damage is done and the "must wins" have been lost.
     
  11. BuffGuy91

    BuffGuy91 Well-Known Member

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    This reminds of the situation that the Avs had a few years back when Lecios(sp?) played for them. They ended up trading the kid so the players could vent and start playing like a team.
     
  12. chipwich

    chipwich Administrator Club Member Junta Member

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    If he wins 6 games he WILL be back next year. So you don't want them to win 6 games ?
     
  13. MiamiBuffs

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    Sweet. How long before a player or two trolls across here and it eventually gets to the Coach.

    Maybe the football forum should be hidden. I don't like undermining the people trying to run things. That said they are employees of the state and we are, as Americans, entitled to criticize them.
     
  14. chipwich

    chipwich Administrator Club Member Junta Member

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    I agree. I don't mind the critiquing of the coaching / play on the field but spreading rumors about team turmoil serves no purpose.
     
  15. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    If coach doesn't know what I posted already, then hes an idot. He's the one spending every day with them.
     
  16. Darth Snow

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    That said, happy to take it down if you guys are really worried about it. Just sharing what i heard.
     
  17. Gateway

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    Why take it down? Maybe it will help with the staff's motivation if they see it.

    I'm sure he knows the players are not happy unless he's not very bright.

    No one was named...I don't see it as "rumor mongering". People know people and will hear stuff.
     
  18. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    I think it's fine. But what do I know, I'm only a 1* mod. :smile2:
     
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  19. zbuff

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    Have you guys ever heard of that free-speech thing? It's kinda important. Anyway, we can't affect Hawk's self-esteem, and that's how it should be. As for spreading rumors, this is the internet - do you believe everything said in these forums?
     
  20. Buffarino

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    1*? When did you get upgraded from a walk-on?:lol:
     
  21. 96 Buff

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    ****. The secret's out. **** me.
     
  22. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    Free speech does not apply here. This forum is the property of the junta. If they want to censor your ass, they will censor your ass.

    Carry on.
     
  23. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    hey man, at least you got offered a scholly for all your hard work and being the coaches son's best friend.
     
  24. BuffLuKe

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    Until this team and staff see's every game as a must win, we will never get back to where we were in the past. Ive had folks ask me why i am a CU fan growing up in west Texas and the whole family being UT fans, answer is real simple. I grew up watching teams that would play anybody, anywhere and knew they were gonna win. Coaches aside, these guys gotta step the hell up. Anybody or team can lose, winning is something u have to learn how to do, hopefully this will be week 1 of that attitude.
     
  25. chipwich

    chipwich Administrator Club Member Junta Member

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    don't start lecturing me on free speech. if I had a serious problem with it I would have deleted the post.
     
  26. DBT

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    I have receieved first hand info regarding the team but do not believe it is ethical for me to pass it on. Mainly because I don't want, in any way, to jeaprodize either who it came from or who it is about.
     
  27. Buffnik

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    It doesn't matter whether you spill the beans or not. I'm wearing my anti-negativity hat today (patent pending), so you can't upset me anyway.

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  28. dply

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    Buffnik = TBD's son?
     
  29. Timbuff10

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    That is my fear...
     
  30. Gateway

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    Oh, so that's why you completely did an about face...you were screaming/cussing Hawkins too after CSU.
     

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