Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by buffedup, Dec 20, 2012.
I've long thought that this is a big problem in college and even HS football. Their testing program is a joke.
Umm, doesn't look like any of our Buffs were in on that... Good read though, can tell some of those kids were hitting the juice. 80+ pounds in less than a year??
Imagine how ****** they would be without the juice.
Hmmm, I could tell a few stories about a team in the Big 12 currently....but I would be betraying confidences.
Are you implying that [REDACTED] had several guys that were on 'roids?
Why would Rugged makes dudes take steroids?
we would of had a bunch of little and slow guys on the team, oh wait
steroids, schmeroids. Nowadays, any dude can go to the doctor, complain about "low T" and get a prescription for straight testosterone. We as a society have jumped the shark when it comes to performance enhancers. Once grandpa can be legally shot up with testosterone once a week just so he feels like he's 29 again, it's a bit difficult to tell a college athlete that it's "wrong" to use steroids.
he prefers them with shrunken testes?
I think it's a little overblown. It's not that difficult to gain that much weight in a few years thanks to overspending on workout equipment and the ease of overindulgene for training table meals. To suggest that there isn't a steroid problem in HS and college would be probably turning a blind eye in this case so it needs to be investigated regardless of what I think about the situation.
Having steaks and mashed potatoes a few times a week can help because the steroid already has been put into the cattle in the first place. :thumbsup:
With very few exceptions*, every former collegiate player of a major sport (football, basketball, baseball & hockey) at any level (FCS, FBS, DII) that I have personally known readily admitted that steroids were a part of their locker room. Most of them expressed having been initially surprised at how readily available the steroids were. The statements are usually exact replicas of the rammie's statements in the linked article - i.e. some iteration of "I never did, but there were a ____ that did." The blank is either filled with "lot" or "few."
*The only exceptions to the above are the players I've known from the service academies. To a man, they are the only ones who claim a "clean" locker room; I believe them.
You know NIH and the FDA say there are no known effects from this practice, right?
Don't really care which team. I am just gonna assume Little Bo Peep's squad.
It's completely UNDERblown. It's rampant throughout college football. Every program has it's users. Some programs have more of the culture than others. I would be very confident in stating that Alabama has a very good "under the table program" where guys are getting advise, assistance, supply, etc without there every being a connection they can prove is AD sponsored". I'd also bet that CSU brought this program in with them from Alabama last year. But it is just my opinion. There are guys at EVERY program juicing. It's a fact.
But they are not alone. It's everywhere. Don't start with CSU being cheaters. This is going on everywhere with or without the S&C coach having a role. Some places, players are getting more "unofficial" assistance than others.
Pat Jacobs was my S&C coach once upon a time. I trained with a guy named Dave Pasanella, who was widely recognized as the strongest man in the world. I was there. I saw it. I learned it. Pat Jacobs later was busted while the S&C coach at the University of Miami. He went down. University of Miami football did not. University AD's are careful not to ever condone this, yet they tie compensation to gains in the weight room. Read thru the lines.
There are two types of Drug Testing programs. Those that are designed to catch cheaters and those designed for Public Relations. The NFL policy is designed to not catch anyone but the dummies. Steroid and HGH is widely used in the NFL.
MLB did not have a drug policy and then Bonds, McGwire, Sosa etc brought too much attention to themselves. MLB reacted by putting in a policy that experts helped design to actually catch guys. MLB suffered a lot of PR negativity. Does anyone with a brain think that there are more MLB players using 'roids than in the NFL? Positive Tests would indicate so. And the NCAA? There is no testing (in practice). It's a joke.
Rep. I cannot think of a college athlete who has been busted, much less suspended, for PED's. it makes no sense. Part of the issue may be that college guys don't have a collective bargaining agreement. They aren't subject to random testing to the extent the pros are. Plus, there are thousands of college athletes. Logistically and cost wise, it would be difficult. One thought I just had is, why not randomly test programs rather than individuals? For instance, just show up at Alabama one day and test 'em all.
Why would we bust them for pursuing an advanced degree. I'd think we should applaud them for such an effort.
lol, OK but while your assumption may be corerct, that is not who I have some info on. It is a current B 12 school, and I think it would surprise you.
Forgot the Nubs were in the Big ? these days! :lol: But damn Lefty, you weren't supposed to cast doubt on my assumption.
It's definitely in college football and a lot of Texas High Schools do it unfortunately. Some Nfl guys are finally getting caught but its always been there, it never stopped imho.
I think i'm fine with lots of education followed by free choice. If adults want to take the risks of long term health problems for short term benefits, then let them juice.
There may have been one guy on the 96 CO championship team I was part of that juiced. Maybe just one guy. Everyone else's gains were slow and hard fought for.
My brother played for a team that went 1-9 in Houston big school football. There were at least 4-5 guys on that team that juiced and it was pretty out in the open.
Aren't you dead?
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