CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
As I told exxon in the first half during the game: "never has 1-2 touchdowns felt so completely distant". We were never in it after the 2nd possession on offense.
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Tell me what to think. And why...
- Thread starter Uncle Ken
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As I told exxon in the first half during the game: "never has 1-2 touchdowns felt so completely distant". We were never in it after the 2nd possession on offense.
At Wazzou we have ridiculous, broken plays and all of a sudden it gives people hope that we can compete with better teams.
What was our 3rd down conversion rate? It was something like 1-11 and UCLA was something like 6-12. Yeah, that's "close."
2 of 15, ouch. I didnt see the game, sounded like we were outclassed for the most part.
I have watched all the games over 3 times each as painful as it is...I just want to try and figure out what is going on??
I think CU is at least 3 to 4 years away from really being a consistent challenging team at the trajectory they are on. There are to many player positions that need to upgrade. By that point we will be graduating some of the players that are playing well. Quarterback (big time),offensive line (BIG BIG TIME),Receivers, running backs, linebackers and defensive line - That's the whole team??? There are no big time play makers that scare the other team (you need at least one on every team). It seems as though the players are not being put in winnable individual battles / mismatches - that is on the coaching staff. Sucks being a CU fan right now!! I don't have to tell you that. When a difference maker shows up, the other difference makers will be graduating and the cycle continues. By then I really see CU going through another coaching change and the cycle continues more.
I think CU is at least 3 to 4 years away from really being a consistent challenging team at the trajectory they are on. There are to many player positions that need to upgrade. By that point we will be graduating some of the players that are playing well. Quarterback (big time),offensive line (BIG BIG TIME),Receivers, running backs, linebackers and defensive line - That's the whole team??? There are no big time play makers that scare the other team (you need at least one on every team). It seems as though the players are not being put in winnable individual battles / mismatches - that is on the coaching staff. Sucks being a CU fan right now!! I don't have to tell you that. When a difference maker shows up, the other difference makers will be graduating and the cycle continues. By then I really see CU going through another coaching change and the cycle continues more.
Defenses that are playing CU are licking their chops. With no threat of a passing game, that kills the running game, they load up the box and go after Webb. Once those flood gates open our offense is in a quagmire. The way to stop a blitz every down is by screen passes or a deep ball - CU can not do either. The only reason they could play with some of those teams last year was Stewerts / Hanses's ability to run a screen pass - remember that play was ran to death last year?
Ozbuff
Member
I agree that we were never really in the game and that UCLA was largely in control. That said, we were only down 21-7 when Hobbs fumbled in the third quarter, right? If he hangs on we're in UCLA territory and may have scored. I know it's a big IF, but it would then have been 21-14 and anything could have happened. Then again, UCLA looked like the better team throughout so maybe it wouldn't have mattered.
Anyway, if we had played like that in our first three games we would have certainly beaten CSU and Sac State and probably Fresno State. I still can't believe we lost the first two games.
Anyway, if we had played like that in our first three games we would have certainly beaten CSU and Sac State and probably Fresno State. I still can't believe we lost the first two games.
BlackNGold
Club Member
For me this game really brought into focus the issues with this team. And some positives.
Now for the positives.
Overall this was a reality check for me on how far this team has to go. I have NOT given up on the staff (makes me a minority on this board). There is no scheme that you can come up with that is going to make Jordan Webb a great QB. The staff has to play the hand they have been dealt unfortunately it is a bad hand.
- We don't have a QB that can compete at this level. I could go on and on about this but until we have significant improvement at this position the Buffs will struggle.
- There are zero difference makers on offense - not saying that we don't have some good players there but no one that causes opposing DCs to stay up at night game planning on how to neutralize a playmaker.
- Quality Depth is an issue.
- I never felt that CU was going to win.
Now for the positives.
- The team played hard the whole game - I think they are developing a mental toughness which they are going to need.
- The defense has improved - but you cannot put them on the field that many times against a good QB.
- The oline had a better game, IMO.
Overall this was a reality check for me on how far this team has to go. I have NOT given up on the staff (makes me a minority on this board). There is no scheme that you can come up with that is going to make Jordan Webb a great QB. The staff has to play the hand they have been dealt unfortunately it is a bad hand.
I wish we'd try to just lob it up to Kasa or Thornton at some point when they're matched with a short guy. Make them make a play up high...same with McCullough.
The Dline is doing well, but (as I state over and over) we have to send more than two guys and disguise/send a blitz every so often. The ucla QB was clearly skid dish against pressure and we still sent two guys very third down so he could take his time and scan the field.
The Oline doesn't give Webb ,uh time, but he holds onto the ball and really doesn't make the quick decisions necessary at this level. I think that is why we don't see a lot of quick slants, and when we do they are into 4-man coverage.
Luckily next year we'll have a bunch of freshman dominating on offense. Wait, did I say freshman? Damn, ok, 2014(or 2015) then.
Just so we're clear, next year our huge contributions will be from:
QB: Dillon (freshman)
RB: Payne (freshman), Powell(true sophomore), Ford?(lol jk that guy doesn't need any carries) Crowder (freshman) Abron (true sophomore) Jones (Junior) Creer maybe (junior) and our latest torn ACL case Lindsay (freshman)
WR: Prich (Junior) Spruce (sophomore) McCulloch (junior) GT (sophomore) Canty (junior) JT (freshman) PWilliams (freshman) Bobo (freshman) Dunston (freshman) and Ross (freshman)
TE: Ray/Irwin (freshman) Hobbs (sophomore) (Thornton (senior)
OL: We only lose Dannewitz, so everyone is back! Yay!
Looking like we'll be pretty young again next year gentlemen. Does the excuse still hold water then or?