Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Buffnik, Jan 6, 2013.
Leaving for the game now. This one is huge for our tourney chances this year.
Buffs hanging with Cal, tied at the half 24-24. Game is on Pac 12 network.
Down 34-38 with 11:26 to play. Hargis heading to the line for 2.
38-41 with 8:44.
4 fouls on Cal, 7 on Buffs. If this is home cooking, it's gonna be ugly there.
43-46 with 4:40.
Arielle just hit a 3.
47-51 with 35 secs
edit: now 49-51 with 16.7
Cal misses both FTs but CU can't control the glass. Jump ball goes to Cal.
49-51 with 13.2
49-52 with 10.3
Buffs with a shot to tie
We need to improve our team size in the future. Too much size from Stanford and Cal for us to handle.
Yeah. Several times in the last couple minutes Cal missed free throws and got the rebound for extra possession. Also, refs favor the tall team with foul calls in the pain. Buffs never got into the bonus in the 2nd half.
Stats (per ESPN):
Offensive rebounds were 16-8 in favor of Cal.
Fouls were 23 on CU (3 or 4 were intentional at the end) vs 13 called on Cal.
Shooting % and turnovers were about the same. Buffs were better from 3, Cal only made 11/26 FTs to the Buffs 7/10 (2 from a technical on Cal's bench instead of a foul), and the Buffs blocked more shots (5/2). This totally came down to Cal getting so many extra possessions - they took 1 fewer shot but 16 more FTs.
Buffs lose by 4.
I'm really concerned about the lack of home cooking from the refs. If we're not seeing an advantage at home, I think we're going to be playing 5 on 8 when we go on the road against the better teams.
I think we are slightly worse team than Cal, but we should be better than most other teams in Pac12. Not sure how many teams will be in tourney from Pac12 eventually though.
Tough loss. You hate to dig yourself an 0-2 hole at home, even with it coming against the best two teams in the conference. Need to beat Utah (twice) and take care of business against the Arizona schools before that absolutely brutal stretch of @ Stanford, @ Cal, @ UCLA hits later this month. The schedule is certainly loaded at the front, but it's tough to realize that 4-5 through the first half is probably the best case scenario for us. The good news is we're going to completely dominate the easier second half slate down the stretch and finish the season on a big run.
Our perimeter shooters are not coming through in these big games. This is why I thought Huggins going down was going to hurt us. For some reason Kresl hasn't quite been the shooter we need her to be in these games. B-will who looked early to be another go to shooter is not coming through. Kresl and B-Wil combined these two games were 2-19 (0-10 3pt).
Another good effort today by the Ladies but i really thought they could come away with this one. These next two against the Yutes are even more important now if the Buffs are still eyeing the Tourney.
Oh and cnbuff410, Lappe has a little size coming next year in Briana Watts...http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/79971-13-CA-P-Briana-Watts-(Verbal-to-Colorado)
Kresl is not really a key shooter in any of the intensive game if her defender is bigger than her because of her shooting pose. She has to get open to make a steady shooting action and it's not gonna happen too much when your opponent is good.
True, that's why she needs to hit the shot more often when she dos get open and she had some open shots. But I guess I see the problem. Our two best outside shooter have pretty big problems. B-will is under sized and Kresl has a very low release point.
The refereeing in this game was atrocious. The idea that CU never shot a bonus FT against a team that plays as physical as Cal is ridiculous. Cal's paint players beat our paint players up from beginning to end.
Having said that, Cal won because of the strength of their front line. The rebounding advantage ended up somewhere around +10, but it seemed larger. Every big rebound seemed to go Cal's way. Cal got two big offensive boards off of missed FTs down the stretch that could have allowed them to tie the game or go ahead.
One thing that was frustrating to see was the way that B Wilson and Chucky were able to take the ball to the rim from time to time, but spent a large amount of time during the game seemingly afraid of going inside. IMO, had they gone inside more often, they could have gone to the line more often, possibly got more of their trees in trouble, and maybe scored a little more. As it was, too many possessions ended up empty as it was.
This was definitely a winnable game at home. Needed to do some key rebounding, which didn't happen on boxing out. Have to score more. They were having more players score. Too many scoreless minutes. Can't have those when you are playing a top ten ranked team.
Chucky let her frustration show. When that happens, she doesn't play well. Arielle's streak of double figure games continues. Right now, they can only count on Chucky and Arielle to score and that isn't enough to beat these teams.
Hope they can beat Utah on Tuesday.
I didn't feel the officiating was atrocious, but CU's inability to grab defensive rebounds did cost them a chance at winning the game. I was going absolutely nuts watching the Buffs get out-muscled time and time again. Yes, CU struggled to find consistent scoring, but they played well enough defensively to keep themselves in the game . . . escept they weren't able to . . you get the picture.
Chucky started out the second half with a lot of confidence and spark, but she had issues down the stretch.
CU seemed to be tight for much of the game on the offensive end. When they beat Louisville they were composed and confident, they need to get there again.
The first half of the conference schedule gives CU almost no breaks, so if they want to finish 3-5 in the regular season and earn an at-large bid to the NCAA tourney the two upcoming games with Utah look to me like must-wins.
Great fight and good win for girls today.
That said, I start to think they are not a legitimate top25 team yet. Utah looks like a more balanced team with more weapon yet less depth. They even got bigger size. We wouldn't win without Chucky's heroic performance and I won't be surprised if we lose to them this Sunday.
Swan is the key for the coming games. If she could play as well as today with more confidence, we will be much better.
I love the energy brought by Wilson sisters and I think they are extremely valuable in defense. Unfortunately their size really limit their contribution on offense side.
We need to upgrade our overall size if we are aiming at top 20 in the near future.
How can Hargis only have 1 rebound?
I agree that for much of tonight CU didn't look like a top 25 team. However, in December they were playing with much more confidence a assertiveness. Since they ran into Stanford they have been fighting to get that confidence back. Not sure when it will happen, but when it does you'll see a different team.
Chucky, free throw shooting and Jamee Swan saved the Buffs tonight. It was the first of what I think are four "must-wins" for this team. They are good enouhg to make the NCAA tourney this season, but not good enough to do it without concentrated effort.
Utah is very good this year. When I was watching the Pac-12 women last year, Utah was the team I thought we'd be fighting tooth and nail with to see who could make the big step up this season. Frankly, even though I think the Buffs have more talent I thought the Utes were a bit better last season and had such a veteran group that they would probably finish ahead of us this season. This was a big, big win.
Also, this game was about Chucky and she deserves all the praise she's getting. But let's also recognize Swan. Tonight was kind of her coming out party. 8 points and 11 rebounds. Big time.
This was huge. Took care of business in a 'must-win'. However, I hate the set up of the schedule. Going to be extremely hard to repeat this on the road in such short notice. I have faith that we can do it, but I'd feel better with some separation games before meeting them again. Let's reel off these next 3 and get ourselves in excellent shape with some cushion for the looming 4 road game nightmare stretch against the top 3 teams in the Pac.
:nod: To my eyes, Jamee was the difference between winning and losing. CU was getting killed on the glass before she game in and starting grabbing rebounds with authority. She also brought a defensive edge with her that was sorely lacking in the paint. Fantastic performance, Utah didn't seem capable of dealing with her.
Agreed. Utah probably didn't have a good scout on Jamee because I think this was the most minutes she has played. That won't be true on Sunday at Utah where it's will be much tougher than last night.
Chucky had one of the best games of her career. However, they can't win with only Chucky. It was difficult with pretty much only Chucky and Jamee.
The other players have to find more ways to contribute on offense. Utah was the first team to frustrate Arielle, but they did it. Was surprised neither Stanford or Cal managed that.
Kresl isn't consistent and there isn't anybody we can count on offensively besides Chucky.
I really thought that B-Wil would step up to a more consistent offensive game this year. We're still seeing the player who might go for 20 one game and then be in single digits the next 4 games. If we could pencil her in for 10-14 every time out, it would change so much in a positive way.
That was what I thought we'd be getting from B Wil this year also. We need to find any player we can pencil in for 10-14 pts. Utah was the first game where Arielle wasn't in double figures. I knew she couldn't do that every single game, but we can count on to score. Right now, we can't count on any other player to score.
I also don't think it's realistic to except Swan to rebound like that every game. Jamee is improving with every game, but she can't do this every game.
The team also needs to be more consistent from the free throw line. If they get in to a close game, it's going to result in a loss.
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