Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by tsarbomba, Feb 18, 2015.
Pretty despicable. Will be interesting to see what Malzahn does, given the woman was military.
Nothing more will be done than Malzahn's apology and maybe a forced, written apology from the two kids. It's the SEC.
At least we didn't stomp on a Marine's head like the entire LSU starting squad.
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I will be extremely disappointed if you guys fail to mention every SEC/southern stereotype in this thread.
I think it has to be said . . . this "service dog" thing where everyone who says they have anxiety gets to carry their chihuahua everywhere they go has gotten out of hand. And what exactly is the harm with engaging with this type of "service dog?"
That being said, if someone asks you not to engage with their pet, there's no reason to be a dick about it.
This woman was raped while in the military and has PTSD over the incident. It's severe enough that he has a service dog. She gets bullied by two huge football players who won't stop when asked, rather they insult her further causing her to have an episode.
That's just absolutely shameful, inhuman behavior. That's just not how people ought to behave. Show some human decency. I would kick them both off the team, no question, but it's the SEC so I'd be surprised if anything happens.
It's not like the service dog is just some kind of cuddly security blanket. They're working. Looking for danger and protecting their handler. If someone is distracting it and engaging with their service animal then they're keeping it from their work. They shouldn't even need to be asked to stop, they should't have been doing it in the first place.
Something something teabag...
Stereotypes are derived from reality
Just have a booster give money to the victim's church?
This is what happens when you have too much sweet tea.
I'm glad it's only the SEC that has off-field issues and doesn't kick every player who is every involved in any alleged incident off their teams.
At least the rest of college sports follows the clear and righteous path.
ew.... does it smell better than corndogs?
and TScheckler - can you try seeing the world as it ought to be, instead of being a cynical realist all of the time?
Way to make a blanket judgement statement. Unless you walk in these people's shoes, you have no idea what they need and the true function or validity of their service dog.
"Cynical realism is the intelligent man's best excuse for doing nothing in an intolerable situation". I don't know what that means but it sounds confusing. :wow:
Unfortunately, you can now buy a "service animal" vest for any pet, so there are lots of posers out there that don't really have a highly trained companion. I think that's what NYC is getting at. In this case, it clearly is a qualified dog.
If someone has a dog that will fit in a vest they need all the help they can get.
The dog was guilty of sporting hounds tooth, and Auburn fans despise being in the presence of hounds tooth.
So much truth in this. My in-laws got their dog "certified" as a service dog. The reason was it made getting through airport security and dealing with airlines easier when they traveled.
Other version of events...TIFWIW
Actually the definition of 'biased account'.
Who the hell knows? This world is so full of weird people. The second account seems really plausible.
you don't take your pet ownership seriously enough.
this service animal trend is new to me, and I admit that I don't know much about it. This thread caused me to do a little research -- this was helpful.
The ADA site provides a definition of service animal:
It's not completely obvious that a person with PTSD who is calmed by petting their dog fits that definition.
That being said, today, the idea of dog owners certifying their animals for convenience is mostly a don't care to me as long as the animal is well trained and behaves. If gets to the point where dogs are running all over the place at the airport, restaurants, etc., I'd start to get annoyed. I guess it's like pot heads (in other states) getting prescriptions so they can smoke.
My dog is a professional dog. He looks down on service dogs.
Your dog needs a service dog.
Real service animals are very expensive and very well behaved. Not very many breeds are used. If you've ever known someone with PTSD they are certainly instances where it is warranted. Extreme anxiety that leads to depression and PTSD is not the same as "I'm worried about my kids."
The bold is absolutely true. True service animals are generally so well behaved and so well trained that random strangers can't really distract them from their job.
I've been very slightly tempted to put a service vest on my dog so that I could bring him out and about with me (think coffee shop, pub, in and out of shops on "main" street), but two things prevent that: 1. general ethics, and 2. my dog is very well behaved, but he's not so well behaved that a knowledgeable person wouldn't be able to spot the difference (average person wouldn't notice).
It just generally pisses me off that is OK for people to bring their rat sized purse dog to the grocery store or restaurant, but I can't bring my actual dog (who will sit under the table and gladly accept petting from folks, but otherwise won't bother/interact with anyone). Central European countries are so much more civilized about this than we are; I know most of this is because we have too many rednecks who don't actually train their dogs but still somehow think they're "well behaved," but, well, "more civilized" is probably the correct term to apply.
Yes, it is much more civilized in Central Europe where people eat with their animals in public.
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