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Would Mac Come Back?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by BuffInDC, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. BuffInDC

    BuffInDC New Member

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    Its been a long time. If he has anything left could he come back for us like Bill Snyder did at KSU.

    Bring Mac back for 2-3 years with Bienemy as the Coach-in-Waiting?

    Id be damned if that doesn't send shock waves throughout the nation.


    *Takes another hit from crack pipe*
     
  2. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Mac is 69. Mac has gone on record saying he won't be back as HC or AD. His time has past. Greatest Buff HC ever IMO, but it's over.
     
  3. MiamiBuffs

    MiamiBuffs Wᴉɐɯᴉ qnɟɟs Club Member

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    No offense intended but their is a reason they say "You can Never go back".

    John McKay comes to mind.

    Barnett might have heeded that advice himself.
     
  4. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    The game has also changed since Mac coached last. He has been out of the game for 15 years. Not to take anything from his coaching abilites, it is just hard to get back in at a high level from being out of the game so long.
     
  5. rynobuff

    rynobuff Club Member Club Member

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    Pissbomber mentioned this as a possibility I thought? Along with Butch Jones and Venebles. No offense to the rest of you but I trust him the most on this site, so if I had to put money on our next coach Mac would be in my top 3 as strange as that may sound.
     
  6. OKCBuff

    OKCBuff Well-Known Member

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    I'd love it but have to agree with others -- no way. Nice thought, but his day is in the past.
     
  7. Crash Davis

    Crash Davis MA....THE MEATLOAF!!! Club Member

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    The irony and revisionist history on this site approaches hilarity at times. :lol::rolleyes:

    The problems with the current team would not magically disappear next year under Mac. As a game day coach, Mac was no miracle worker. Mac was not that different from most coaches in that he usually won when he had better players and lost when he didn't. His magic was in recruiting.

    Mac's record his first 4 years was remarkably similar to Hawk's record.

    The difference was back then you didn't have the internet and 5 different ESPN networks and the insane pressure to win now or be fired, and that allowed Mac to have enough time to get the program built up from the ground up. I once saw an interview with Mac where he was talking about the goal of winning a national championship and he specifically pointed to the 1984 1-10 season. He said from that point, he figured it would take 10 years.

    They actually did it in 6, though in some ways his intuition was spot on, since 94 was his best team, IMO. Those are the kinds of timelines were talking about here, people....
     
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  8. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    And don't think that Bill Marolt wasn't under HUGE pressure to make a change after that 1-10 season. Any former players can dispute it all they want, but that's the reality.
     
  9. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I have spoken with a fairly well respected former CU player who stated that he did not think that EB would make a good HC. Something about he cannot handle the power. He felt that EB needed many more years to mellow. I did not get a straight answer about if EB would make a good OC for us. The player was all for Embree for HC, and had apparently had meetings with the CU AD before the Hawk hire and stated that unless he could bring his entire staff with him from Boise, that he would not be a good hire. He was rather close mouthed about who he was pushing to replace Hawk. I trust he cares about CU more than I do-- so I was very interested to see his thoughts on everything going on.
     
  10. MiamiBuffs

    MiamiBuffs Wᴉɐɯᴉ qnɟɟs Club Member

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    Exactly! Well said. You could point to the 94 NU game as an example of being not such a good game day coach. And I agree that 94 probably was the peak of talent for CU as we had skill players at all positions.

    What I really liked about Mac was his ability to hire great assistant coaches. His decision to fire himself as QBs coach and hire Neuheisel is a strong example of that. Kordell looked amazingly better between 93 and 94.

    I would love to have Mac back. But again, why go there and possibly tarnish your legacy. He gave us great memories. He gave me 24 or 25 of the greatest days of football I ever enjoyed wathching. :goldcup:
     
  11. PhillyBuff

    PhillyBuff Club Member Club Member

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    was the difference between 24 and 25 the 1994 UNL game?
     
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    Yeah, I'd like to leave that one off the list. Did not attend thank god.

    Just trying to estimate how many games I attended that he coached. I went to both Orange Bowls and a couple of away games so that probably about right.
     
  13. KingPants

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    I remember the hearty laughs that I had at KjSU when they brought the crypt keeper out of coaching retirement early this year. Then they didn't suck so bad, and we did....so maybe there is something to that. Although Mac has been out a whole lot longer then Synder was.
     
  14. PhillyBuff

    PhillyBuff Club Member Club Member

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    you were in the CU media? what did you do for them?
     
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    MiamiBuffs Wᴉɐɯᴉ qnɟɟs Club Member

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    I worked as a photographer for the lowly Campus Press my last two years at CU. The lowly Campus Press had season sideline media credentials for all CU sports. I was hooked. :thumbsup:

    After graduating I did a bunch of internships. Some paid and some not. The sCamera, the Gazette in the Springs, Michigan and then a staff job at the Greeley Tribune. I covered CU football sparingly after 1994. Also freelanced a little for the Post and the Rocky.
     
  16. PhillyBuff

    PhillyBuff Club Member Club Member

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    were you allowed to keep any football photos?

    My brother works for NFL Films and he got me a photo of CU pro players in a Pittsburgh/ Indianapolis game...

    I think Lamont Warren was the only Colt and the rest were Steelers. It is a GREAT picture.
     
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    When I was there through about 98 you could keep your stuff or at least compies of it as an intern for your portfolio. The idea behind an intern is to supplement the staff at a low cost and help the intern build his portfolio.

    As a staffer some places let you keep your work and some didn't. Lots of guys made money to supplement $8-$10hr by selling prints. As I was leaving the business some Orewellian stuff started coming down starting with the bigger papers and getting into the smaller ones stating that they owned your images as intelectual property.

    The Gazette in the Springs tried at the time to get all staffers to sign that they also owned your freelance work as well as your right to freelance. This didn't sit well with the staffers because most had a side freelance business all of which didn't pose much of a conflict of interest. No one agreed to sign. Especially Bob Jackson who shot this Pulitzer winner and feared losing royalties to it.

    In the end we found out that the paper was targeting columnist X. He was wildly popular with readers and possessed the comedic skills close to Dave Barry. He had left the LA times but still wrote a freelance column for the paper for $$$. The Gazette's parent company also owned the Orange County Register and as such didn't like their employee writing against them. When Mr X was told to sign or quit he quipped; "you have my two weeks notice". The company blinked but in the end a lot of people including X left

    I left after that for another internship
     
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