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We're about to find out how good Mac is

SINKRATZ

SINKRATZ

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This has been an incredible season and Mac and his staff have done an amazing job - I'm not ashamed to say they have proven me wrong about them.

But we are about to find out how good Mac really is. We're playing meaningful games in late November and have the potential to finish the conference season against veteran coaches Leach, Wittingham, and Peterson standing between us and our goal. Those coaches are a combined 332-147 in their careers. Mac is new to this type of challenge - are we up to the task? I can't wait to find out.
 
SINKRATZ said:
This has been an incredible season and Mac and his staff have done an amazing job - I'm not ashamed to say they have proven me wrong about them.

But we are about to find out how good Mac really is. We're playing meaningful games in late November and have the potential to finish the conference season against veteran coaches Leach, Wittingham, and Peterson standing between us and our goal. Those coaches are a combined 332-147 in their careers. Mac is new to this type of challenge - are we up to the task? I can't wait to find out.
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Our O game planning, play calling and execution all have work optimally, nay, symbiotically, for it to work out. I believe.
 
I'm liking our chances.
Playing at home, in front of our crowd, with a great coaching staff...I think it will be interesting to see how the kids and coaches all react.

I think he's built them up enough to believe in themselves enough that they ALL expect to win these games and have a magical season.
I'm believing, too...but am worried about these two games. Toughest we've faced since USC...but they are all winnable!
 
SINKRATZ said:
This has been an incredible season and Mac and his staff have done an amazing job - I'm not ashamed to say they have proven me wrong about them.

But we are about to find out how good Mac really is. We're playing meaningful games in late November and have the potential to finish the conference season against veteran coaches Leach, Wittingham, and Peterson standing between us and our goal. Those coaches are a combined 332-147 in their careers. Mac is new to this type of challenge - are we up to the task? I can't wait to find out.
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Tune in on Saturday, same bat-time, same bat-channel!!
 
This season has surpassed all expectations so if the pac 12 championship doesn't come to fruition, while disappointing, still a great year and the start of good years to come.

This team is at home, they've been through so many brutal losses, they have the focus, the will and even more, the confidence to finish what they have demanded of themselves all season.
 
Buffnik said:
There aren't many teams in the nation that would win back to back games against Wazzu and Utah. Dare I say that this would be a playoff-worthy performance... especially if followed by a win against Washington?
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Playoff worthy only if we win all 3 unless heretofore unseen chaos erupts. Even though we lost on the road in close games with our backup QB to top 20 or better teams, I find it hard to argue that a 3 loss team deserves to play in a 4 team playoff to determine the natty champ.

currently we have a 73% chance (per S&P anyway) to win each of the next two games. We have a 7% chance of losing both and ending up 8-4, a 40% chance of going 9-3, and a 53% of winning both and ending up 10-2. Barring crazy stuff out of HCMM's control happening (end of last year's QB situation, for instance)

Roughly:
Rebuild specialist only loses both.
Good coach wins 1.
Great coach wins both.
 
Preseason, there was still a pretty agreed-upon narrative that CU didn't have the pac 12 talent to compete. There haven't really been many "newcomers" making significant contributions (Lynott and Tupou I guess), so that talent pool remains effectively the same. Question is, if CU is still playing with subpar talent compared to its conference foes, shouldn't a huge amount of credit be given to MM and his staff as really good coaches at this point? In other words, they are coaching their balls off and have already proved, IMO, that they are more than just a rebuild specialist. The only question in my mind, is whether they are a really good coaching staff, or a great one.
 
SINKRATZ said:
This has been an incredible season and Mac and his staff have done an amazing job - I'm not ashamed to say they have proven me wrong about them.

But we are about to find out how good Mac really is. We're playing meaningful games in late November and have the potential to finish the conference season against veteran coaches Leach, Wittingham, and Peterson standing between us and our goal. Those coaches are a combined 332-147 in their careers. Mac is new to this type of challenge - are we up to the task? I can't wait to find out.
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A couple of things jump out at me.

1) Mac has been hyping the November games since preseason, what with all the "gold game" stuff. For the life of me, I can't decide if he expected to be where we are and knew that we'd have something to play for, or if it was just one of those weird coach things that happened to work. Either way, it's worked to perfection this season.

2) The pirate has never won anything. He had some good seasons at Tech, but never played in a B12 championship game. CU, on the other hand, often seems to win championships even when they're apparently overmatched. Tell me you expected to beat Texas in Dallas in 2001. For whatever reason, some teams can grab the brass ring when it's in sight, and some can't. Cougars can't.
 
I want CU to win out, go to the CCG, crush UW and/or WSU, go to the Rose Bowl and eviscerate some B1G team.

Having said that, I am with pcbuff, Mik Mac has met and exceeded expectations already, I am firmly a MikMac believer now. I take back all the snotty remarks and have eaten my crow.
 
BuffsNYC said:
A couple of things jump out at me.

1) Mac has been hyping the November games since preseason, what with all the "gold game" stuff. For the life of me, I can't decide if he expected to be where we are and knew that we'd have something to play for, or if it was just one of those weird coach things that happened to work. Either way, it's worked to perfection this season.

2) The pirate has never won anything. He had some good seasons at Tech, but never played in a B12 championship game. CU, on the other hand, often seems to win championships even when they're apparently overmatched. Tell me you expected to beat Texas in Dallas in 2001. For whatever reason, some teams can grab the brass ring when it's in sight, and some can't. Cougars can't.
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Holy jinx!
 
BuffsNYC said:
A couple of things jump out at me.

1) Mac has been hyping the November games since preseason, what with all the "gold game" stuff. For the life of me, I can't decide if he expected to be where we are and knew that we'd have something to play for, or if it was just one of those weird coach things that happened to work. Either way, it's worked to perfection this season.

2) The pirate has never won anything. He had some good seasons at Tech, but never played in a B12 championship game. CU, on the other hand, often seems to win championships even when they're apparently overmatched. Tell me you expected to beat Texas in Dallas in 2001. For whatever reason, some teams can grab the brass ring when it's in sight, and some can't. Cougars can't.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he figured the gold games were going to be crucial in achieving bowl eligibility and instead they are crucial in a much larger goal.
 
Mac has a terrible record against ranked opponents here and at SJSU...that can be explained by them both being rebuilding projects. The final 2-3 games will break that trend or give more info that he's a rebuild guy only. I'm thinking we win at least 1 of the next 2 and Mac proves he can win big games.
 
Bufffan68 said:
Mac has a terrible record against ranked opponents here and at SJSU...that can be explained by them both being rebuilding projects. The final 2-3 games will break that trend or give more info that he's a rebuild guy only. I'm thinking we win at least 1 of the next 2 and Mac proves he can win big games.
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Yeah. That record was as a huge underdog in those games. He'll be coaching the favorite in this one (and the next if CU wins this week). Totally different animal and he's got an opportunity to prove something here.
 
I think one thing us fans have to remember whether we want to believe it or not, is the players and coaches set their goal as Pac 12 champs. I know to many of us realistically set it at 6-7 wins before the season and thought that maybe the staff and players saying that was a little far fetched. But now they have a real opportunity to attain that goal as crazy as it sounds and they hold the key to their own destiny! What a time to be a Buff!!!
 
You have to give Mac credit at the beginning of the season. He saw this coming and prepared them for the November games. He is a good coach with what we have seen this season. As mentioned above, we will find out if he and his staff are great.
 
I remember the early season argument that Mac was preparing to throw the kids under the bus with the "Players win games " thing.

Turns out it was an effective motivation tool that got the kids to buy in and believe.

As someone already said I think we already know that Mac is damn good at coaching.
 
Heywood said:
I remember the early season argument that Mac was preparing to throw the kids under the bus with the "Players win games " thing.

Turns out it was an effective motivation tool that got the kids to buy in and believe.

As someone already said I think we already know that Mac is damn good at coaching.
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I always thought it was weird that so many fans took it as an excuse instead of an affirmation. Weird.
 
Mac has coached and won in big, late season games before (albeit in the WAC). Mac first caught my eye when he lead a very under the radar SJSU team to an upset win over a much sexier, much hyped Louisiana Tech team in his last regular season game there. I have zero doubts that this team will give everything they have over the next two games and think that we will all be amazed at the results. Gotta get Folsom ROCKING!
 
I think we are already finding out about how good Mac is. At least as a rebuilder. His November "big game" resume is yet to be written, but even one year is not a good enough sampling to determine whether he is a big game coach or not.
 
I think bringing up Mac's record against ranked teams is really irrelevant. Both CU and SJSU were programs he turned around with taking diamond in the rough kids and turning them into consistent, confident football players. Even now, Colorado isn't even close to having the talent, depth and star power UCLA, USC, Stanford and some other schools in the PAC have. If anything it proves how fantastic he's been as a coach, taking less and turning it into something great.

Michigan and USC are good examples of Colorado losing because of talent and depth. Mac's staffs out coached both losses but they couldn't overcome the depth against Michigan and talent issues against USC. USC had no business winning that game but we just couldn't overcome their defense.
 
Buffsrock85 said:
I think bringing up Mac's record against ranked teams is really irrelevant. Both CU and SJSU were programs he turned around with taking diamond in the rough kids and turning them into consistent, confident football players. Even now, Colorado isn't even close to having the talent, depth and star power UCLA, USC, Stanford and some other schools in the PAC have. If anything it proves how fantastic he's been as a coach, taking less and turning it into something great.

Michigan and USC are good examples of Colorado losing because of talent and depth. Mac's staffs out coached both losses but they couldn't overcome the depth against Michigan and talent issues against USC. USC had no business winning that game but we just couldn't overcome their defense.
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While we may face a talent/depth deficit again in the P12 championships, neither WSU or UU have more talent or depth than us.
 
8Jah said:
While we may face a talent/depth deficit again in the P12 championships, neither WSU or UU have more talent or depth than us.
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Agreed, they're about even with us, which goes with my line of thinking. Fantastic coach that can out coach others but can't out coach talent. Is that even possible? Talent always wins, ask von miller.
 
darth-horax said:
I'm believing, too...but am worried about these two games. Toughest we've faced since USC...but they are all winnable!
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The USC game was within grasp. We let one get away.

Buffnik said:
There aren't many teams in the nation that would win back to back games against Wazzu and Utah. Dare I say that this would be a playoff-worthy performance... especially if followed by a win against Washington?
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Could be a rematch against WSU. If CU wins this week and WSU wins next week. Washington just showed they are vulnerable.
 
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