Mike MacIntyre officially fired effective immediately

[Shldr2Shldr]

 

[4BienemyTDs]

I know you guys really like JMac but he is little **** IMHO. He used to rub it in Sean's face how he was running the TE routes now and in the late 2016 season, Sean would take it upon himself to help make sure all the WR's were getting off the field in time and JMac would tell Sean to FO that his time on the field was just about over. Really glad I never ran into the little **** after 2016. How disrespectful to your teammate, who could have transferred out of CU but stayed to finish what he started even though he knew the TE position would only be blocking for PL. I have no sympathy for him at all.

Wow, let's be sure that any coaching candidates do not a son coming up that could end up on the team. Team dynamics are important and I have seen many issues with dad-son combos at much lower levels, so sorry it had to happen at pretty much the highest level.

 

[Bliff Cranch]

I know you guys really like JMac but he is little **** IMHO. He used to rub it in Sean's face how he was running the TE routes now and in the late 2016 season, Sean would take it upon himself to help make sure all the WR's were getting off the field in time and JMac would tell Sean to FO that his time on the field was just about over. Really glad I never ran into the little **** after 2016. How disrespectful to your teammate, who could have transferred out of CU but stayed to finish what he started even though he knew the TE position would only be blocking for PL. I have no sympathy for him at all.

Damn. That’s cold. We’re all going to look back at today as the day things started to improve again.

 

[SerenityBuff]

 

[Mick Ronson]

Holgerson seems a little unstable....and coming here seems a little far fetched... but he would be a great get imo. losing to OSU in Stillwater is not a huge deal. like others said.....OSU has W's over 3 ranked teams at home this year.

 

[Always BUFF]

I had the same thought. I think if I were Jay, I wouldn't play. Jay came out yesterday saying the whole thing was bull****. How can he play for a team that just fired his dad as coach? At the same time, it is the last time he will have a chance to play a competitive game so it must be hard for him, and he won't want to quit on his team.

I guess maybe I´ll go with this: Jay will not want to play and if HCMM is a good guy, he will almost force his son to play as it is in his son's best interest and the team's

Doesn't sound much like the player some considered a lock for the Heart award. MM can't force his son to do anything he's an adult & member of a team. Jay will decide for himself as it will most likely be his last game and if he's half the man most of us believe he is he'll play.

 

[ahoelsken]

Holgerson seems a little unstable but he would be a great get imo. losing to OSU in Stillwater is not a huge deal. like others said.....OSU has W's over 3 ranked teams at home this year.

They nearly beat Oklahoma last week-That's a solid football team.

 

[ismith75]

Any idea that Jay should not play is outrageous. Jay, Coach Mac, and the whole CU family knew that there was potential that there’d be a split at some point. His dad did everything he could, everyone realized that the ceiling was too low, and we’re making a change. Jay came here to play for his dad AND CU and I would bet anything that the thought of him not going out there one more time hasn’t even crossed his mind. He committed to this team and I’d imagine he wants nothing more then to get another game before he hangs it up for good. Idk what the locker room dynamic looks like but I doubt there’s any animosity towards Jay and the reality is the team is better when he’s out on the field.

 

[4BienemyTDs]

Since we now have Assistants on longer term contracts, does that mean that the incoming coach pretty much has a responsibility to talk/interview them to see if they want them to stay before parting ways and arranging compensation? It has been pretty commonplace for 1-3 previous assistants to stay on board for the recruiting transition and stay if they have been performing at a high level. Ross Els, ShaDon Brown, and Kwahn Drake are the three that I would potentially hope stay for the transition. I would like to obviously say Chiv because he is a dedicated Buff and a strong recruiter, especially of the WR, but who knows? We have a stud core of WR's that I do not want to see leave, especially guys like Arias and Stanley who are just starting out and could redshirt transfer. They will be starters next year with Viska, Nixon, and Brown

 

[MtnBuff]

Holgerson seems a little unstable but he would be a great get imo. losing to OSU in Stillwater is not a huge deal. like others said.....OSU has W's over 3 ranked teams at home this year.

Holgerson has lost some big games but he has also beaten his share of ranked teams including some on the road.

Culturally WVU is a different place than CU but in a lot of ways they are similar. Both are schools that have the resources and the budgets to be competitive but that also trail members of their conference in resources. Holgerson has managed at times to beat those schools that have a lot more resources than he had.

Both are schools that have things that appeal to recruits but also that have to recruit the majority of their athletes from out of state due to a limited pool in-state. Holgerson has managed to convince enough kids to move to WV to field teams that can compete against most and are not strangers to the rankings.

I think he would be an excellent get for us. I also think that he has the kind of reputation that would allow him to hold together the base of talent that we have and to make an immediate jump in recruiting.

 

[Mick Ronson]

They nearly beat Oklahoma last week-That's a solid football team.

i wouldn't want to be their 7 win, G5 or whatever middle tier bowl opponent.......the light "switched on" for Cornelius, they have 2-3 really good WR's and big kid Hubbard at RB is taking carries from Justice Hill.

 

[hawg1]

I suspect RG said “no coordinators”.

 

[ahoelsken]

Since we now have Assistants on longer term contracts, does that mean that the incoming coach pretty much has a responsibility to talk/interview them to see if they want them to stay before parting ways and arranging compensation? It has been pretty commonplace for 1-3 previous assistants to stay on board for the recruiting transition and stay if they have been performing at a high level. Ross Els, ShaDon Brown, and Kwahn Drake are the three that I would potentially hope stay for the transition. I would like to obviously say Chiv because he is a dedicated Buff and a strong recruiter, especially of the WR, but who knows? We have a stud core of WR's that I do not want to see leave, especially guys like Arias and Stanley who are just starting out and could redshirt transfer. They will be starters next year with Viska, Nixon, and Brown

Chev is the recruiting coordinator-he'd be one of them.

 

[4BienemyTDs]

Any idea that Jay should not play is outrageous. Jay, Coach Mac, and the whole CU family knew that there was potential that there’d be a split at some point. His dad did everything he could, everyone realized that the ceiling was too low, and we’re making a change. Jay came here to play for his dad AND CU and I would bet anything that the thought of him not going out there one more time hasn’t even crossed his mind. He committed to this team and I’d imagine he wants nothing more then to get another game before he hangs it up for good. Idk what the locker room dynamic looks like but I doubt there’s any animosity towards Jay and the reality is the team is better when he’s out on the field.

I totally agree he should play, it is just an emotional moment for him, and I would imagine he will handle it and play his heart out. Nobody on here would say he should definitely not play, he has earned everything, despite some potential friction with some players.

 

[cu3x]

Search firms can do many things ADs can’t, especially in this late season period. It is absolutely the right move. RG is an executive. He knows how this works.

Every coach in America is now aware of the vacancy - if they didn't know it was coming - and RG knows (even better than AllBuffs) everyone who's out there. Can't he just do his job? It's not like you're prospecting for gold; more like buying a car. you just need to seriously consider your options.
What is the value of a search committee - other than having someone to blame later? If it's such a great and necessary thing, how come it failed so miserably the last several times? Wasting money, to impress people that we can.
Hawg1 related to the Nienas family?

 

[hawg1]

Holgerson seems a little unstable....and coming here seems a little far fetched... but he would be a great get imo. losing to OSU in Stillwater is not a huge deal. like others said.....OSU has W's over 3 ranked teams at home this year.

Red Bull. No Pepsi.

 

[MtnBuff]

So we will have an interim head coach.

Is it possible to find an interim offensive line so we actually have a chance to win the game?

 

[BlackNGold]

Since we now have Assistants on longer term contracts, does that mean that the incoming coach pretty much has a responsibility to talk/interview them to see if they want them to stay before parting ways and arranging compensation? It has been pretty commonplace for 1-3 previous assistants to stay on board for the recruiting transition and stay if they have been performing at a high level. Ross Els, ShaDon Brown, and Kwahn Drake are the three that I would potentially hope stay for the transition. I would like to obviously say Chiv because he is a dedicated Buff and a strong recruiter, especially of the WR, but who knows? We have a stud core of WR's that I do not want to see leave, especially guys like Arias and Stanley who are just starting out and could redshirt transfer. They will be starters next year with Viska, Nixon, and Brown

Any new coach is going to want to hire their own guys. Most of the CU staff is a bunch of lightweights.

 

[Buffnik]

I know you guys really like JMac but he is little **** IMHO. He used to rub it in Sean's face how he was running the TE routes now and in the late 2016 season, Sean would take it upon himself to help make sure all the WR's were getting off the field in time and JMac would tell Sean to FO that his time on the field was just about over. Really glad I never ran into the little **** after 2016. How disrespectful to your teammate, who could have transferred out of CU but stayed to finish what he started even though he knew the TE position would only be blocking for PL. I have no sympathy for him at all.

Thanks for the insight and for sharing.

Putting my cards on the table, here's what my evaluation of Sean was as a TE which I posted over the years. I thought he had reliable hands and should have been used more as a check down option (couple passes a game) with the possibility that the defense would lose track of him and he'd get something wide open up the seam every now and then. But I didn't see him as a major receiving TE guy who could stretch the field or should get a high volume of targets. As a blocker, I felt like he was our 6th OL in the run game and was the main reason that people thought Adams had done a good job in 2016 -- it was really Sean covering our issues at RT and making it possible for Sefo to be so successful on those QB powers. I believed at the time that his lack of usage as an outlet receiver was often because we needed him as an extra blocker to cover those same issues in pass protection at RT.

 

[hawg1]

Every coach in America is now aware of the vacancy - if they didn't know it was coming - and RG knows (even better than AllBuffs) everyone who's out there. Can't he just do his job? It's not like you're prospecting for gold; more like buying a car. you just need to seriously consider your options.
What is the value of a search committee - other than having someone to blame later? If it's such a great and necessary thing, how come it failed so miserably the last several times? Wasting money, to impress people that we can.
Hawg1 related to the Nienas family?

Deniability. Confidentiality. Speed. Wider net. No tampering. On and on.

It’s what good executives do.

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

 

[SerenityBuff]

 

[BlackNGold]

Every coach in America is now aware of the vacancy - if they didn't know it was coming - and RG knows (even better than AllBuffs) everyone who's out there. Can't he just do his job? It's not like you're prospecting for gold; more like buying a car. you just need to seriously consider your options.
What is the value of a search committee - other than having someone to blame later? If it's such a great and necessary thing, how come it failed so miserably the last several times? Wasting money, to impress people that we can.
Hawg1 related to the Nienas family?

Search firm and search committee are two different things. You need the former and not the latter. Bohn liked search committees ( donors, faculty, students, etc.) I think they are stupid. Search firms can establish mutual interest and save everyone wasted time. They also can insulate you from tampering charges. Agents for a lot of coaches will be contacting CU but a lot of that can be just agent BS to leverage their client a pay raise. Search firms that are good can iron some of that out.

 

[Always BUFF]

Either way MM was ultimately responsible so here we are. The drops I was referring to were against ASU & UCLA, and the Tate episode was an anomaly by anyone's standards...but the D did stink.

 

[BerkeleyBuff]

RG: “I want to win Pac 12 championships, I want to win national championship, and I’m committed to that.”

Full chub.

 

[CUAviator]

People love to focus on things that don't matter.

I was responding to you “no way we beat Cal no matter who the coach is”. I think this shock to the system will get us that win...whether or not the kids liked/disliked coach MM. There will be a different energy. It wouldn’t be sustainable with an interim coach, but I think it gets us this game. We have the talent.

 

[BerkeleyBuff]

Roper interim

 

[BlackNGold]

Roper interim coach

 

[Buffalo Brad]

Roper interim, good call

 

[bpc5180]

Huge indictment on what team is thinking about certain coaches imo