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Mel Tucker leaves CU for Michigan State

As far as I’m concerned that guy left for money. If there were rumors that RG reneged, as far as I’m concerned those were countermeasures tossed out via the former HC to either make himself look better or ease his conscience.
 
As far as I’m concerned that guy left for money. If there were rumors that RG reneged, as far as I’m concerned those were countermeasures tossed out via the former HC to either make himself look better or ease his conscience.
He didn't leave for money, he didn't even let rg counter offer. He never saw himself spending more than a few years here, 100%. He would've taken the msu job with a pay cut
 
The admissions leniency issues seem to me to be the most likely to be true. I actually blame RG for overpromising what he could deliver.

It would be highly frustrating to spend all the time and energy necessary to land some big recruits, and then have "the bureaucracy" simply veto all your effort.

The biggest reason I think there's fire behind this particular smoke is because if you ask yourself "which regent would be least likely to support relaxed admissions standards for football players? Who among them would most likely say that we should hold to our standards, despite it costing us?"

There's only one answer.

Now, normally that wouldn't be a big deal. It's just one regent, and there's 9 of them.

Except...

This particular regent literally works at CU.

In the admissions office.

This is why I
A. Believe it is and was an issue, and
B. If RG even implied that he or the school could do better with it, he was either ignorantly dumb, or knowingly selling a crock of ****.
 
We would all eat that much salt if we could. Dude is uniquely well suited for his environment and in good enough shape to go shirtless. All with a "devil may care" attitude! Color me red, with envy
 
The admissions leniency issues seem to me to be the most likely to be true. I actually blame RG for overpromising what he could deliver.

It would be highly frustrating to spend all the time and energy necessary to land some big recruits, and then have "the bureaucracy" simply veto all your effort.

The biggest reason I think there's fire behind this particular smoke is because if you ask yourself "which regent would be least likely to support relaxed admissions standards for football players? Who among them would most likely say that we should hold to our standards, despite it costing us?"

There's only one answer.

Now, normally that wouldn't be a big deal. It's just one regent, and there's 9 of them.

Except...

This particular regent literally works at CU.

In the admissions office.

This is why I
A. Believe it is and was an issue, and
B. If RG even implied that he or the school could do better with it, he was either ignorantly dumb, or knowingly selling a crock of ****.
I have never understood, and will likely never understand why that wasn't a HUGE conflict of interest. Along with his partner working at CU as well.
 
I have never understood, and will likely never understand why that wasn't a HUGE conflict of interest. Along with his partner working at CU as well.
The board literally changed the conflict of interest rules for him. Pissed me off to no end.

The board was put into a hard position - they had a legitimately elected regent. What they should have done was make him quit his job or resign as regent.

But the real blame lies with the Denver democrats who actually nominated and elected someone who had such an absurd conflict of interest.
 
The board literally changed the conflict of interest rules for him. Pissed me off to no end.

The board was put into a hard position - they had a legitimately elected regent. What they should have done was make him quit his job or resign as regent.

But the real blame lies with the Denver democrats who actually nominated and elected someone who had such an absurd conflict of interest.
This last part assumes people who voted for him actually understood who he was and where he worked and didn’t just check the name with the “D” next to it
 
This last part assumes people who voted for him actually understood who he was and where he worked and didn’t just check the name with the “D” next to it
I'm blaming the party leadership not necessarily the voters. The local party leaders have far, far more influence on who wins down ballot nominations than many people realize.

And those assholes knew damn well he had an absurd conflict of interest, but pushed him anyway.
 
I'm blaming the party leadership not necessarily the voters. The local party leaders have far, far more influence on who wins down ballot nominations than many people realize.

And those assholes knew damn well he had an absurd conflict of interest, but pushed him anyway.

So when are we starting our campaign to amend the CO state constitution to abolish the elected board of regents?
 
This last part assumes people who voted for him actually understood who he was and where he worked and didn’t just check the name with the “D” next to it
The party should have never allowed him to run. That’s definitely a party issue. They should know better. They were lazy.
 
The admissions leniency issues seem to me to be the most likely to be true. I actually blame RG for overpromising what he could deliver.

It would be highly frustrating to spend all the time and energy necessary to land some big recruits, and then have "the bureaucracy" simply veto all your effort.

The biggest reason I think there's fire behind this particular smoke is because if you ask yourself "which regent would be least likely to support relaxed admissions standards for football players? Who among them would most likely say that we should hold to our standards, despite it costing us?"

There's only one answer.

Now, normally that wouldn't be a big deal. It's just one regent, and there's 9 of them.

Except...

This particular regent literally works at CU.

In the admissions office.

This is why I
A. Believe it is and was an issue, and
B. If RG even implied that he or the school could do better with it, he was either ignorantly dumb, or knowingly selling a crock of ****.
Meh, enough time has passed. If anyone recalls Rezjohn Wright (plays for Oregon State), he was a silent commit at CU but then eventually committed/signed with Oregon State because he wasn't going to be admitted to CU. Admissions leniency was absolutely one of the issues RG promised to MT and either knew he was lying or is as stupid as I think he is. Probably both.
 
Meh, enough time has passed. If anyone recalls Rezjohn Wright (plays for Oregon State), he was a silent commit at CU but then eventually committed/signed with Oregon State because he wasn't going to be admitted to CU. Admissions leniency was absolutely one of the issues RG promised to MT and either knew he was lying or is as stupid as I think he is. Probably both.
BTW he is freakin legit
 
Meh, enough time has passed. If anyone recalls Rezjohn Wright (plays for Oregon State), he was a silent commit at CU but then eventually committed/signed with Oregon State because he wasn't going to be admitted to CU. Admissions leniency was absolutely one of the issues RG promised to MT and either knew he was lying or is as stupid as I think he is. Probably both.
I remember seeing him in the Husky game and thinking “wasn’t he one of our commits?” Would be nice to have him in the black and gold
 
Seems as though Tucker had attractive women working in the recruiting dept. What 18 year old guy doesn't feel special when a 25 year old hottie is messaging him constantly about how much we need him to come here? I know this got some people all upset. Does that work better than Bob Lopez doing it?

And if Tucker could get Alfano into CU, how hard was admissions?

I honestly just don't think enough people care about CU football and Tucker knew that. We had a supporters get together at a brewpub in Longmont and Tucker was there and we had perhaps 150 people show up. At a real football school, we'd had 1500 or 15000.
 
Seems as though Tucker had attractive women working in the recruiting dept. What 18 year old guy doesn't feel special when a 25 year old hottie is messaging him constantly about how much we need him to come here? I know this got some people all upset. Does that work better than Bob Lopez doing it?

And if Tucker could get Alfano into CU, how hard was admissions?

I honestly just don't think enough people care about CU football and Tucker knew that. We had a supporters get together at a brewpub in Longmont and Tucker was there and we had perhaps 150 people show up. At a real football school, we'd had 1500 or 15000.
Hiring attractive young women to support recruiting of male athletes makes a ton of sense.
 
Meh, enough time has passed. If anyone recalls Rezjohn Wright (plays for Oregon State), he was a silent commit at CU but then eventually committed/signed with Oregon State because he wasn't going to be admitted to CU. Admissions leniency was absolutely one of the issues RG promised to MT and either knew he was lying or is as stupid as I think he is. Probably both.
Rezjohn was actually a verbal commit until admissions denied him.

Admissions is a major issue and not sure how it gets fixed.
 
Rezjohn was actually a verbal commit until admissions denied him.

Admissions is a major issue and not sure how it gets fixed.
Ah yeah you are correct. I couldn't remember if it was a public commit. But yes, the change of heart was entirely academic. He was fully on board.
 
I actually find myself rooting for MSU and Tucker a bit, but I don't know if it's because they've been good for the betting account or what. Regardless, I'm no longer bitter about him leaving because I think Rick George sold him a bill of goods that he didn't follow through on.
Of course you're rooting for them. How many 1-2 year stints does Tucker have on his resume? Even Todd Graham thinks hes a job hopper.
Okay lol.

I am bored. Time to get back to football.
Are you Qerg?
 
Ah yeah you are correct. I couldn't remember if it was a public commit. But yes, the change of heart was entirely academic. He was fully on board.
Yep. Wright and the other guy who ended up at OSU. Lost two recruits because of denied admissions.

I look at CU admissions the same as USC. Guaranteed loss every year.
 
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