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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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get your head out of your a**
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OMG this! This! This! This! THIS!!!!
Did you have a dream about it Jerdough?
No my spirit has been broken. I only have nightmares.
beating juggernaut USC is the only hope I have left.
Sanford gets a 5 year deal, fully guaranteed, on 11/12/22
Jerkass vs. Ken
Rest assured you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever catch me rooting for the fuskers or that stupid catholic school team.
Sadly, Incarnate Word is closer to being a rival than Notre Dame is at this point.
Knowing our luck, probably.
Big 12 to adopt temporary divisionless football schedule - Sports Illustrated
The schedule, agreed upon earlier this week, protects rivalries and includes Texas and Oklahoma for the remainder of the conference’s grant of rights.
www.si.com
Commissioner Brett Yormark is leading the conference through negotiations with both FOX and ESPN on a new television contract. Those discussions have accelerated, officials say. Yormark told the Associated Press earlier this week that he has had “meaningful” conversations with ESPN and Fox.
Any deal is expected to include a clause that may incentivize the conference to grow again. Additional teams joining the league would receive a pro-rata share. Yormark has not been shy about his desire to add programs. The league has targeted several members of the Pac-12 South, most notably Arizona, Colorado, Arizona State and Utah, as potential additional expansion candidates.
These schools’ decision to join the Big 12 likely hinges on the particulars of their own league’s new television contract. The Pac-12 is in the process of negotiating its own new deal. Each conference’s annual distribution is at the core of the issue. The Big 12 paid out $43 million to its members last year while the Pac-12 paid out $33 million. Projections of their new TV deals range widely.
Those in the Big 12 claim their distribution could be as much as $10 million more than the Pac-12’s projected payouts. Pac-12 officials, trying to preserve their own league, say those projections are inaccurate and that their league is more valuable.
Above it's basically saying that FOX and ESPN is asking the BIG 12 to expand. To me these two networks are doing their best to kill the Pac12.
If the Big 12 reaches out to the 4 corner schools for membership you take it.
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ahoelsken
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Am I the only one who thinks there's gotta be a third power league if for no other reason than the SEC, Big 10, and their respective TV partners want to avoid any monopoly lawsuits?
This probably looks the way it does now-I mean one of the SEC or Big 10 gets two teams into the CFP. Once it goes to 12, you could have 3-4 teams from the SEC/Big 10 each, the best G5 champ, and then 2-3 teams from the third power conference.....likely the Big 12.
CU's one card they can play is the Denver media market. One of the three power leagues is going to want that.
Yep. This is driven by the media conglomerates.Big 12 to adopt temporary divisionless football schedule - Sports Illustrated
The schedule, agreed upon earlier this week, protects rivalries and includes Texas and Oklahoma for the remainder of the conference’s grant of rights.
Commissioner Brett Yormark is leading the conference through negotiations with both FOX and ESPN on a new television contract. Those discussions have accelerated, officials say. Yormark told the Associated Press earlier this week that he has had “meaningful” conversations with ESPN and Fox.
Any deal is expected to include a clause that may incentivize the conference to grow again. Additional teams joining the league would receive a pro-rata share. Yormark has not been shy about his desire to add programs. The league has targeted several members of the Pac-12 South, most notably Arizona, Colorado, Arizona State and Utah, as potential additional expansion candidates.
These schools’ decision to join the Big 12 likely hinges on the particulars of their own league’s new television contract. The Pac-12 is in the process of negotiating its own new deal. Each conference’s annual distribution is at the core of the issue. The Big 12 paid out $43 million to its members last year while the Pac-12 paid out $33 million. Projections of their new TV deals range widely.
Those in the Big 12 claim their distribution could be as much as $10 million more than the Pac-12’s projected payouts. Pac-12 officials, trying to preserve their own league, say those projections are inaccurate and that their league is more valuable.
Above it's basically saying that FOX and ESPN is asking the BIG 12 to expand. To me these two networks are doing their best to kill the Pac12.
If the Big 12 reaches out to the 4 corner schools for membership you take it.
I don't believe the B1G wanted to kill the Pac and I think they'd love it if the numbers worked for merging more in. At least Cal, Stanford, Oregon and Washington but I think they'd entertain expanding to 24 with those 4 plus Arizona, Colorado, Utah and Kansas to have every major AAU in the west (that's 10, so shift Nebraska & Iowa for 12). But the numbers don't work.
It's just about finding someone who will pay good money for UA, ASU, CU, and Utah just like UW, UO, Cal, and Stanford...it's only a matter of time. If we were in the original Big 12, I'd imagine that four-some group would be CU, KU, KSU, and Nebraska.
The CFP money could be so good that the Big Ten expands again not long after both LA schools join.
My only question is if the Big Ten will continue to be called the Big Ten and the SEC will continue to be called the SEC at some point down the road.
Say what you will about CU’s fair weather fan base but here’s a picture at Stanford just before kickoff. They had an official attendance of only 25,000 but looks way lighter. Oh, and this was Homecoming. I know it’s not just about attendance but how would this appeal to the BIG?
The Big 16 would possibly be THE power conference in basketball. There is value in that I would think.
I don’t think the B1G cares about attendance much otherwise UCLA wouldn’t have gotten an invite
B1G cares about money and status. So it's about universities in the right markets which have tradition, academic prestige, B1G alumni population, and a base for drawing media dollars and qualified out-of-state applicants.
Yeah, I still see some correlation between attendance and fan engagement/passion/interest in their program. And it’s bad for TV to have an empty stadium. UCLA got to ride USC’s coattails to the BIG and their stadium is 30 miles from campus whereas Stanford’s is on campus.
USC doesn't compare in attendance to many of the B1G programs either.
Those two are all about west coast TV ratings and adding a national brand in USC then needing a partner for them for scheduling reasons.
If that’s all that mattered then CU’s recent decades of sucking shouldn’t matter in the realignment calculus.
Thanks in part to the stellar leadership of Phil, CU's academic "prestige" is in the ****ter.
They took Rutgers and Maryland the previous round. I believe we're not a long shot if the numbers work for expansion to 20 or 24. But we're not a large enough market to slice the pie into a 17th slice and make more money for the other 16 while getting a full share of our own. That's where building our following and national tv draw matters so much as we compete with programs similar to us (non-accretive to current media deal) in the next round.
If the BIG could cut Maryland and Rutgers loose right now with no penalty do you think they do it? I’m very curious if either brings $100M in value to a conference.
None of Cal, Stanford, Washington or Oregon bring enough money to increase the per team payouts.
That's my point. Under the current deal structure, only Notre Dame is accretive to either the B1G or SEC.
So if the move is toward having 2 superconferences, I see CU as being as good of a fit for the B1G as others who are currently on the outside looking in. We have to do things to be able to make our best case for the next round and I would like our chances.