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I hate the fact that I’m so jaded that I feel like there was impropriety going here.

 

[Sheldon]

You’re an NFL GM? Cool.

Yeah, cause that's exactly what i said. Cool.

 

[manhattanbuff]

Yeah, cause that's exactly what i said. Cool.

You’ve made a prediction without much evidence, reasoning, experience, or knowledge. The process is super early. Your prediction isn’t good. You were being mocked.

 

[Sheldon]

You’ve made a prediction without much evidence, reasoning, experience, or knowledge.

90% of the mock drafts show Young going before Stroud. 90% show Young as 1st QB (I've seen one with Levis ahead, 0 with Stroud).

The reasoning is simply Young is a better QB. Not much to reason there boss.

I'm not an NFL GM, never claimed to be one. But, I can make an educated guess. I'll stick with mine, that Young will be 1st QB off the board.

As far as the "mocking", i obviously knew what you meant. I was just being the same type of asshole you were. No worries there.

If you are so certain my prediction isn't good, let's both send $50 to someone here, if any QB gets selected before Young, you get the money. If not, I do. I'm confident in my selection.

You game?

 

[Big Jim]

I was just being the same type of asshole you were.

You could only wish to be half the same type of asshole as Manhattan.

 

[You Assholes]

Bet! Bet! Bet!

 

[Uncle Ken]

I hate the fact that I’m so jaded that I feel like there was impropriety going here.

For God’s sake, they were football players not cops.

Apologies for my insensitivity, also. That’s really sad.

 

[manhattanbuff]

90% of the mock drafts show Young going before Stroud. 90% show Young as 1st QB (I've seen one with Levis ahead, 0 with Stroud).

The reasoning is simply Young is a better QB. Not much to reason there boss.

I'm not an NFL GM, never claimed to be one. But, I can make an educated guess. I'll stick with mine, that Young will be 1st QB off the board.

As far as the "mocking", i obviously knew what you meant. I was just being the same type of asshole you were. No worries there.

If you are so certain my prediction isn't good, let's both send $50 to someone here, if any QB gets selected before Young, you get the money. If not, I do. I'm confident in my selection.

You game?

Since so many mock drafts favor your side, I’ll need what us bettors refer to as odds. As you say, 90% of mocks have Young going as the first QB, so you’d need to lay me 9/1, which would compute to your $450 to my $50. If Young is the first QB selected, you get $50. If he’s not, I get your $450.

Feel free to let me know when you’re ready to post.

Signed,

Your boss.

 

[Sheldon]

Your prediction isn’t good.

Oh, so the confidence is gone now?

All I needed to hear.

 

[manhattanbuff]

Oh, so the confidence is gone now?

All I needed to hear.

Uhh, moron, it is you who lack the confidence. All you gotta do is lay the price.

 

[Sheldon]

I laid it out.

You declined. Simple as that.

You’ve made a prediction without much evidence, reasoning, experience, or knowledge.

Surely its an easy $50 for you. Look at how you described my choice. You just don't want to back it up.

No worries. I get it.

 

[manhattanbuff]

I laid it out.

You declined. Simple as that.



Surely its an easy $50 for you. Look at how you described my choice. You just don't want to back it up.

No worries. I get it.

You don’t understand how betting works. I accepted that we should bet. You’ve declined to back up your position by refusing to lay the appropriate odds.

We get it. You’re trying to weasel out of the bet once you got called out.

 

[You Assholes]

So far, all I'm getting out is this is that Sheldon is slightly smarter than Yak

 

[Sheldon]

You don’t understand how betting works.

I completely understand how it works, and I offered the bet. $50 from each, winner take all. Pretty damn simple.

I accepted that we should bet.

Possibly, but you wanted difference odds, ones that I did not offer in the first place.

You’ve declined to back up your position by refusing to lay the appropriate odds.

I laid out what I was betting. You wanted to change it. You had the chance to accept, seeing as how you are all-knowing, yet you failed to do so.

We get it. You’re trying to weasel out of the bet once you got called out.

I am still ready. $50 from each of us, to one person here, if any QB goes before Bryce Young, you win. If Young goes off as the first QB to be selected, you lose.

Just because you want different odds doesn't mean anything. I made an offer for the bet, you refused.

 

[BuffsNYC]

I completely understand how it works, and I offered the bet. $50 from each, winner take all. Pretty damn simple.



Possibly, but you wanted difference odds, ones that I did not offer in the first place.



I laid out what I was betting. You wanted to change it. You had the chance to accept, seeing as how you are all-knowing, yet you failed to do so.



I am still ready. $50 from each of us, to one person here, if any QB goes before Bryce Young, you win. If Young goes off as the first QB to be selected, you lose.

Just because you want different odds doesn't mean anything. I made an offer for the bet, you refused.

It certainly seems like you valued your opinion at way more than a 50% chance when you posted this:

Either way, the first QB off the board will be Young. That's all I'm saying. Texans, Colts, Lions, whoever else...

I guess it was hyperbole, otherwise you'd be taking Manhattan's $50 right now.

 

[manhattanbuff]

I completely understand how it works, and I offered the bet. $50 from each, winner take all. Pretty damn simple.



Possibly, but you wanted difference odds, ones that I did not offer in the first place.



I laid out what I was betting. You wanted to change it. You had the chance to accept, seeing as how you are all-knowing, yet you failed to do so.



I am still ready. $50 from each of us, to one person here, if any QB goes before Bryce Young, you win. If Young goes off as the first QB to be selected, you lose.

Just because you want different odds doesn't mean anything. I made an offer for the bet, you refused.

You have this twisted. I never claimed to be all knowing. I claimed that your certainty was unproven.

You do not understand how betting works. You remain supremely confident in your position. Yet, you refuse to lay the appropriate odds. That you don’t understand why this makes you look bad further demonstrates my point about you being clueless.

 

[You Assholes]

Manhattan sucks all the fun out of losing money

 

[Sheldon]

You do not understand how betting works.

Don't be obtuse. I offered the bet. It had no odds. You can claim I "refuse to lay appropriate odds" (in your eyes), but they simply were not on the table. You didn't accept.

 

[Sheldon]

I guess it was hyperbole, otherwise you'd be taking Manhattan's $50 right now.

And I am willing to put my $50 on the bet I offered.

 

[You Assholes]

What if it was 5 and 45?

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

What if it was 5 and 45?

You suck all the fun out of Manhattan arguing about betting

 

[Sheldon]

What if it was 5 and 45?

I made an offer.

$50 from me. $50 from him. One person holds, at his choosing.

Young first QB off the board, I win.

Any other QB off first, he wins.

It's not any easier than that.

If he doesn't want to do it, no problem. I'm okay with that as well.

 

[manhattanbuff]

Don't be obtuse. I offered the bet. It had no odds. You can claim I "refuse to lay appropriate odds" (in your eyes), but they simply were not on the table. You didn't accept.

I understand what you’re trying to do. That’s what I’ve been criticizing. To be clear about why your position is moronic: you’re saying that you’re so confident about an event happening that you’re only willing to lay the odds of it happening at… 50%. Of course I didn’t accept 50/50 odds. You’re the one with the burden of proof since it is you who has constantly proclaimed your certainty.

 

[Sheldon]

Of course I didn’t accept 50/50 odds.

All I needed to see.

Thanks.

 

[BuffsNYC]

I made an offer.

$50 from me. $50 from him. One person holds, at his choosing.

Young first QB off the board, I win.

Any other QB off first, he wins.

It's not any easier than that.

If he doesn't want to do it, no problem. I'm okay with that as well.

That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that Manhattan is offering to pay you $50 if the thing you guaranteed actually happens, but for some reason you don't want his money.

 

[Sheldon]

Another way to look at it is that Manhattan is offering to pay you $50 if the thing you guaranteed actually happens, but for some reason you don't want his money/

I'm ready to put my money up. He's confident my opinion was not correct. I was simply waiting on him.

 

[manhattanbuff]

All I needed to see.

Thanks.

There’s not one post where I say that the odds of any QB being selected is a coinflip. That’s what YOU’RE saying despite your professed certainty.

You keep asserting your original point without addressing the points that undermine it.

 

[Sheldon]

You don't want to bet.

Okay.

 

[manhattanbuff]

You don't want to bet.

Okay.

I want to bet at the correct price.

What percentage chance would you assign to Bryce Young being the first Quarter Back selected in the 2023 NFL Draft?

 

[Sheldon]

I want to bet at the correct price.

I've stated my offer numerous times. If you aren't interested, okay. I'm good with that.