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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

hokiehead said:
without looking it up, my understanding of the term is something like "content delivered via the internet"
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Nope, not the way the industry defines it. Miami's definition earlier is the best way of putting it. ESPN+ is a streaming service, ESPN is not - it is part of linear programming package at this time. Yes I can get ESPN over my phone through my linear subscription.
 
BlackNGold said:
Nope, not the way the industry defines it. Miami's definition earlier is the best way of putting it. ESPN+ is a streaming service, ESPN is not - it is part of linear programming package at this time. Yes I can get ESPN over my phone through my linear subscription.
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I'm not seeing his definition, what is it?

looking it up, wiki defines it as
"Streaming media is multimedia that is delivered and consumed in a continuous manner from a source, with little or no intermediate storage in network elements. Streaming refers to the delivery method of content, rather than the content itself."

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that definition fits my understanding -- is it aligned with yours?

I'm not following how your comments about ESPN are relevant to the topic of "what is streaming?" What's the signficance of whether the parent company has a different business unit for linear programming and one for streaming? if you're getting ESPN content on your phone, I think that's 'streaming' by most any conventional understanding. I'm probably missing something fundamental here.
 
Buffnik said:
The tv thing is a smaller issue to me than the price of tickets. Season ticket packages of 7 games. 4 are conference opponents (1 of 2 probably weak) and then at least 2 of the non-conference opponents are bodybag games. This is part of why attendance is suffering. And the issue in its entirety is why a true upper division of 64 teams that only play each other (or maybe one D1 game from outside the league) has so much accretive value vs the current setup. Maybe add FCS guests for spring game and fall camp scrimmages. Pure profit and much better / more valuable product for fans.
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Agree. I like the idea. I question if it happens. SEC doesn’t want 9 conference games to hurt their records. It’s why I’m skeptical they would partner with the B1G and other P5s and conform to rules. Money I suppose could change that.
 
hokiehead said:
I'm not seeing his definition, what is it?

looking it up, wiki defines it as
"Streaming media is multimedia that is delivered and consumed in a continuous manner from a source, with little or no intermediate storage in network elements. Streaming refers to the delivery method of content, rather than the content itself."

link

that definition fits my understanding -- is it aligned with yours?

I'm not following how your comments about ESPN are relevant to the topic of "what is streaming?" What's the signficance of whether the parent company has a different business unit for linear programming and one for streaming? if you're getting ESPN content on your phone, I think that's 'streaming' by most any conventional understanding. I'm probably missing something fundamental here.
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Context is important and within the context of this thread and media contracts that is not the definition of streaming vs linear programming. Here is Miami's definition:
MiamiBuffs said:
Think of it like this;
Cable: ESPN is a linear cable channel delivered by a third party service. ESPN is on Cable and on Sling, both a 3rd party middle man service. You pay the third party, they pay ESPN.

Streaming: ESPN+ is a direct to consumer no middle man service. You pay ESPN+ directly.


Sure, you can “stream” both of them to your TV in your house. But the sources of their revenue are different.
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When I am talking about CU being on streaming with a new contract with Apple TV it means they are not available on linear programming.
 
BlackNGold said:
Context is important and within the context of this thread and media contracts that is not the definition of streaming vs linear programming. Here is Miami's definition:

When I am talking about CU being on streaming with a new contract with Apple TV it means they are not available on linear programming.
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ok, thanks. I think you and I have a different take on definition vs example, as well as likely conflating content with delivery method
 
springsteen does 3+ hour shows at full speed with no ****ing piped o2. multiple times i have seen him in denver...

you kids today are SOFT as butta.

Tfd101 GIF by Tacoma FD
 
Victory said:
We’ll have to see how much this changes when the conference play begins. 40% streaming Wk 1-3 seems appropriate given the brands and opponents.
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It could vary with the 14 team alignment vs 10 as to how many don't get FS1/ESPN/2/U but last year had more early streaming as a % and ended up at 27% overall. I'd be shocked if it was anywhere close to the first three week percentage.
 
InTheBuff said:
Every single ESPN+ game except one is against total crap opponents and deserve to be relegated to ESPN+.
The only game to me that might have a case to be 'interesting' is SMU at Oklahoma.
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Every Big 12 team has at least one home game on ESPN+ and with OU hosting Arkansas State on ESPN on 9/2... SMU is the worst remaining home game in their inventory.
 
hawg1 said:
Is there conference data available on this topic from last year? SIAP. Thanks.
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Big 12 was 26% FOX/ABC, 20% ESPN/2/U, 27% FS1, 26% ESPN+, 2% LHN. Might shift a little more % to ESPN+ with 4 new teams but since BYU can play late and all 4 played a lot of Thursday & Friday games it might not do so much since they may just cannibalize windows that ESPN threw at the AAC or BYU's independent deal in prior year or the FS1 windows that the MWC benefits from.

For the Big Ten it will change. 31 games on FOX/ABC, 12 on ESPN/2/U, 13 FS1, and 43 BTN. With 99 games of inventory it's pretty close to a % split.

New deal for them is mostly set but the specific streaming amounts aren't exactly clear since some reports conflict on the details and they are having to re-haggle with NBC who's one streaming partner. They will have 42-45 games on one of CBS/NBC/FOX (14-15 each) with all the rest except a handful of streaming on FS1 or BTN depending on how many of FOX's selections are left for FS1 after FOX eats.

For the SEC it'll be 1 game a year on ESPN+ and 15 on CBS- the rest are an ESPN channel or SECN. After this year those 15 CBS will shift to ABC.

For the PAC around 46% are on PAC 12 network which has very limited reach (almost 10M fewer subs than ESPN+) and the top 54% evenly split between FOX/FS1 and ABC/ESPN/2/U.

For the ACC I am not sure how it will shift. 2022 had around 34% on ABC/ESPN/2/U with 44% on ACCN and the rest either streamed or syndicated.

MWC was 7% FOX/CBS last fall with 21% FS1 and 36% CBS College Sports Network. 8% FS2 and 29% either internet or regional tv.

AAC was 57% on ABC/ESPN/2/U, 36% ESPN+, and 6% CBS College Sports. (Navy home games) 1 game was sublicensed to NFL Network. Streaming likely goes way up with them jumping from 11 teams to 14 and none of the additions being close to what they lost. ESPN was already way above the minimum required ABC/ESPN/2/U appearances.
 
InTheBuff said:
I saw Chris Isaak performing live in the men's department of Nordstrom's at the South Coast Mall in Orange County, CA.
Craziest thing to see. It was a free performance that we stumbled upon. At the time I think he had a deal with Tommy Hilfilger.
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Me too, except at Fashion Island (also OC) parking lot. He seems to have a thing for malls, but that was a while ago.
 
InTheBuff said:
Forget who's interviewing Howell and listen to what he's saying. My God this place is sometimes littered with children.
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He's not saying anything we haven't already read about or inferred. There's no deal for whatever reason. CU is frustrated, and is obviously the most vocal (see the Rick comment) about it. Could CU move? Yes. Will said move happen tomorrow? No.
 
30Something said:
I saw the Sex Pistols at Red Rocks in 1996 during some renunion tour they were doing. Johnny Rotten was on the O2 tank the entire show. Seriously, he may have been taking hits between verses. It was hilarious.

In Johnny's voice after the second song: "I doh know oww you fooking people breeeeeeavee up 'ear". 🤣
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I was also at this concert
 
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