We’ve spent the better part of a decade, some of you far longer, discussing how vital it is to recruit “in footprint”.
If you haven’t noticed, we aren’t going after many Cali, Arizona, Utah and Washington kids with Prime at HC.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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If you haven’t noticed, we aren’t going after many Cali, Arizona, Utah and Washington kids with Prime at HC.
JayHawk
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I have always like CU so I hope it works out for you.
When you left most of us kind of just accepted that you felt like you fit in more with the PAC than you did with the Big12.
Missouri? Was glad to see the slavers go. Nebraska? Understood it but laughing at their continued demise and hope they get even worse. Texas? Eff you bastards I wish you would have never been in the B12 to start with you arrogant paper tiger. Texas A&M? You guys were weirdos to start with and now you get to deal with the Longhorn BS so NelsonSimpsonsHaHa.gif to you. Oklahoma? YOU are the true traitors to history and tradition may you never have success again. But you guys? Some of the thought is you'd been invaded by California idiots that made you feel like you should look west.
But good luck either way. Question: If a football game plays on some obscure streaming network and no one is there to watch it did it make any noise?
When you left most of us kind of just accepted that you felt like you fit in more with the PAC than you did with the Big12.
Missouri? Was glad to see the slavers go. Nebraska? Understood it but laughing at their continued demise and hope they get even worse. Texas? Eff you bastards I wish you would have never been in the B12 to start with you arrogant paper tiger. Texas A&M? You guys were weirdos to start with and now you get to deal with the Longhorn BS so NelsonSimpsonsHaHa.gif to you. Oklahoma? YOU are the true traitors to history and tradition may you never have success again. But you guys? Some of the thought is you'd been invaded by California idiots that made you feel like you should look west.
But good luck either way. Question: If a football game plays on some obscure streaming network and no one is there to watch it did it make any noise?
Assuming Prime recruiting is a blueprint without Prime is certainly an argument you could make.
I know you are trying to be funny but what's your point?
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If you haven’t noticed, the AD and university are all in on Prime. It would behoove you to start thinking about the short and mid term future of the program with that in mind
Prime recruits nationally. He doesnt need us to be anywhere.
Or let me say it another way, kids Prime is pursuing are probably being pursued by UM, UF, FSU et al, and they wont give much of a rip about CU v UXF.
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All I’m saying is that CU goes from irrelevant in FL to slight less irrelevant if they are in a conference with the largest public institution in the state.
Closing in on 400 pages and where we are is exactly where we started:
1. It's an incredibly long shot that the B1G or SEC would further expand at this time.
2. It's an even longer shot that if they did it would include CU.
3. It's an incredibly long shot that the ACC could navigate around its GOR at this time.
4. It's an even longer shot that if they did it would result in a new conference merger with Pac teams.
5. It's been disheartening to hear what is likely to be earned in a new Pac media deal.
6. It's likely that CU stays in the Pac if that media deal materializes within the range of the ACC and Big 12 deals.
7. It's likely that CU bolts for the Big 12 if the Pac presents a media deal that's not within range of the ACC and Big 12.
8. It's almost certain that we'll see hundreds of additional posts before this is decided.
1. It's an incredibly long shot that the B1G or SEC would further expand at this time.
2. It's an even longer shot that if they did it would include CU.
3. It's an incredibly long shot that the ACC could navigate around its GOR at this time.
4. It's an even longer shot that if they did it would result in a new conference merger with Pac teams.
5. It's been disheartening to hear what is likely to be earned in a new Pac media deal.
6. It's likely that CU stays in the Pac if that media deal materializes within the range of the ACC and Big 12 deals.
7. It's likely that CU bolts for the Big 12 if the Pac presents a media deal that's not within range of the ACC and Big 12.
8. It's almost certain that we'll see hundreds of additional posts before this is decided.
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He doesn't need help to recruit Florida. Seems to be going ok. What matters is money and exposure. Making recruiting ground for prime arguments in favor of the b12 when half the team will transfer out the day he leaves is silly.
It’s going ok for our standards. It’s not going ok for his standards (hint: national championship). As I said, which you failed to acknowledge. This program is doing everything it can to win now. It’s not concerned about AP
Sammy11
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The Big 12 has very good exposure going forward. Basically all of the top 70% of inventory will be on FOX/ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/FS1 with a small bit on ESPNU.
The ACC has solid exposure. Not as many huge windows since so many leagues compete for ABC/ESPN high upside windows. Top third of their inventory is there and then the next almost half is on their league network which isn’t on par with espn or FS1 distribution but matches ESPNU. That’s 3x the reach of the P12 network.
There’s a pretty sizeable gap Vs the P12 for both unless a combo of espn/fox/cbs/nbc roll out some tv windows that most have covered pretty well aside from the noon eastern window the PAC can’t help with much.
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Going ok? Are you high? And moving to the big 12 isn't going to fix the problem of not being in the sec or b1g.
You are really grasping at straws here.
All I’m saying is that it adds more relevance for CU in FL than they currently have. And yes, relative to the goals he has at CU, recruiting in going OK at the moment. It has to get better if he wants to compete with the top 10% of the P5
It’s really interesting to contrast this thread with my Twitter “For You” section, which is now mostly filled with accounts Prime follows. Nearly all of them say that Colorado to the Big12 is done awaiting lawyer/Regent approval. I don’t love the move but it seems like there’s a ton of smoke in the media about it.
Victory
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Same. Twitter has a way of being hijacked by misinformation and willing idiots. Just saying.
Victory
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Prime is competing with FSU and Miami not UCF. The adds more relevance part, it’s debatable. Do FSU recruits think highly of UCF? Highly doubt it. It’s different Venn diagram of circles.
Yeah. I'd compare it with UH. They'll get some dudes but take a backseat to UT and aTm plus some out-of-state powerhouses that recruit heavily in TX.
Can we show some respect when talking about the university that invented outer space please?
Higher education in Florida is kind of an interesting phenomenon. The state is fairly young and didn’t explode in population until the swamp was drained and the invention of air conditioning. The growth since the 1950s is astounding, when you consider a place like Orlando had 20,000 people and cows six decades ago.
The relatively short history means there are few private colleges in the state. You have a few like the University of Miami and I’m sure some of you may have heard of Rollins College in Winter Park or Stetson in Deland. But there is not a whole lot of others. The state system had UF in Gainesville and FSU was a converted teachers college. At the same time, the population of the state went from 1 million to 22 million in a flash. So where do all the kids go to college?
UF has gotten damn near impossible to get into, which is why you’ve seen its ranking starting to crack the top ten public universities lists. FSU was kind of a backup plan, but that’s really changed as well, so now you see it popping in the rankings too. The directional schools are actually well thought of in general, and are at the nascent stage where a lot of the directional California schools were decades ago. Just like them, the Florida state schools are evolving rapidly.
It was not surprising to see USF get AAU status quickly, as it has a medical school and is a major leader in health sciences. It is very hooked in with the Moffitt Cancer Center, which is like a Taj Mahal for cancer treatment (I hope you never have to go there like I did to accompany my wife). There is a lot of money in Tampa and USF is not considered to be a bad school at all here. UCF is on a similar trajectory, although it is more known for its business school.
UCF and USF have already blown by a lot of other flagship schools in the less populated mountain west states. The state of Florida is adding 1 million people a year, and they have to go somewhere.
TL;DR The massive population in Florida is going to create a half dozen top notch public schools just like in California.
The relatively short history means there are few private colleges in the state. You have a few like the University of Miami and I’m sure some of you may have heard of Rollins College in Winter Park or Stetson in Deland. But there is not a whole lot of others. The state system had UF in Gainesville and FSU was a converted teachers college. At the same time, the population of the state went from 1 million to 22 million in a flash. So where do all the kids go to college?
UF has gotten damn near impossible to get into, which is why you’ve seen its ranking starting to crack the top ten public universities lists. FSU was kind of a backup plan, but that’s really changed as well, so now you see it popping in the rankings too. The directional schools are actually well thought of in general, and are at the nascent stage where a lot of the directional California schools were decades ago. Just like them, the Florida state schools are evolving rapidly.
It was not surprising to see USF get AAU status quickly, as it has a medical school and is a major leader in health sciences. It is very hooked in with the Moffitt Cancer Center, which is like a Taj Mahal for cancer treatment (I hope you never have to go there like I did to accompany my wife). There is a lot of money in Tampa and USF is not considered to be a bad school at all here. UCF is on a similar trajectory, although it is more known for its business school.
UCF and USF have already blown by a lot of other flagship schools in the less populated mountain west states. The state of Florida is adding 1 million people a year, and they have to go somewhere.
TL;DR The massive population in Florida is going to create a half dozen top notch public schools just like in California.
So how does this work - do schools apply? Or are they just invited? If it’s an application, do some just not care?
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Schools inquire first to see if there's mutual interest. It's all of the stuff that happens in between that takes all the time. Schools never submit the application unless they know they will be accepted. The application is the last thing.
Because the big 12 is looking to enhance the basketball prestige. UA does that ASU doesn't offer much.
And a world of difference between the two states when it comes to commitment for football by the schools. That's the main issue I have with the P12 & California especially Stanford & Cal. The California State system of colleges doesn't have a great attitude towards football outside of Frenso State & SDSU. SJSU has dragged its feet when it comes to football stadium improvements as well and is often mentioned as the next CSU school to drop the sport.
Wow. Just did a fly by on BuffStampede.
On this particular topic, we're a bunch of fools.
The main thread started by S_D over there is at 151 pages while we're sitting at damn near 350 with no endpoint in sight.
Oof. Sad when surpassed 24/7 in circular discussions over tweets.
Yet I keep coming back for more...
On this particular topic, we're a bunch of fools.
The main thread started by S_D over there is at 151 pages while we're sitting at damn near 350 with no endpoint in sight.
Oof. Sad when surpassed 24/7 in circular discussions over tweets.
Yet I keep coming back for more...
This is a solid post describing Florida. A lot of these directional schools didnt have dorms for most of their existence until after the 2000s. Going from memory more then a decade ago there was a big fight in the legislature as to wether USF, UCF, and or FIU would get the next law school. UF (and UM) no longer had enough elected alum/reps to block the law school. The growth has been wild.
Heh. Id forgotten about stetson. DeLand is an obscure spot
To be fair, this started a year ago when USC and UCLA to the B1G went public and it encompasses all expansion.
The 247 thread started a little over 3 months ago. They’re on pace to double us up