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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

#1 pick said:
Doesn't seem like much is going to happen outside of adding teams for the ACC. FSU doesn't have a home beyond the ACC. The B1G is waiting for only ND at this time. Travel is about to be a nightmare
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The Big Ten did that to themselves. Like I said in another post-Texas has easy road trips for everything else to places like Baton Rouge, College Station, and Fayetteville. That's totally different than flying 1500 miles from LA to the ****hole that is Lincoln.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
The narrative Breer created is, "fans say they love regional matchups, but their viewing habits don't support this". That's an excuse being pedaled by the networks for justifying their actions of consolidation. I also don't accept that the networks simply "read the room incorrectly and don't understand fans". They absolutely know fans better than anyone, they just don't want to pay for the same for low rated regional matchups as they do for high rated national matchups.
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Honestly, I wanted to see if the data supported this, and I think it's really hard to draw conclusions from the data.

Here's the week by week numbers from last season:

www.sportsmediawatch.com

College Football TV Ratings

College football TV ratings for the 2023 regular season, bowls, College Football Playoff and National Championship.
www.sportsmediawatch.com www.sportsmediawatch.com

The problem is that "ISU/Iowa" and "KSU/Kansas" isn't going up against "Alabama/Random SEC team" or "Ohio State/Purdue". All those games are typically on the last week of the season and up against blueblood rivalry games. Earlier in the season it's typically non-con schedules and intriguing matchups do the best, to say nothing of rivalries or regionalities.

FWIW, NC State/NC, Oregon/Oregon State, Washington/WSU, Kansas/KSU, all got better ratings than Penn State/Mich State, Georgia/Georgia Tech, and Nebraska/Iowa from that same weekend. Earlier in the year, ISU/Iowa did better than Ohio State/Arkansas State, Michigan/Hawaii, and San Jose/Auburn.

Kinda disrupts the "bluebloods vs. anyone" narrative.
 
I would think regionality and the push for the playoffs would actually increase viewership of games. Right now most fans don't watch outside the prime time spots because the lessor games don't matter as much. Broaden the appeal, and the interest will come back.
 
BuffBronco said:
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And now Notre Dame will support the schools wanting to break the ACC because they'll want to be in the B1G if Stanford, USC, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue and Northwestern rivalry games can all be there. That justifies joining a conference. Irish probably have the juice to orchestrate Miami and Texas A&M (not happy about UT reunion) jumping with them to ensure that all their recruiting grounds were covered.
 
Buffnik said:
And now Notre Dame will support the schools wanting to break the ACC because they'll want to be in the B1G if Stanford, USC, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue and Northwestern rivalry games can all be there. That justifies joining a conference. Irish probably have the juice to orchestrate Miami and Texas A&M (not happy about UT reunion) jumping with them to ensure that all their recruiting grounds were covered.
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I think the challenge going forward is the money is gone. Schools can move around, conferences can merge, but unless a media partner comes in with more money little of it makes sense. Adding Stanford, Cal and SMU to the ACC makes little sense unless ESPN comes up with more money for the new additions and I don't think that is happening. WSU and OSU are probably going to have the bite the bullet and join the MWC which will be a financial disaster for them but maybe they get a decent payout from the PAC 12 assets when dissolved (what happens to the NCAA MBB units the PAC12 has accumulated).
 
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Gee that's a shocker.

ND was pushing for the ACC to add Cal and Stanford and apparently they have a vote on expansion despite not being a member for football. Some of the ADs finally woke up and are wondering why the hell ND has a vote in this.

The ACC is kissing NDs ass in the .01% chance they'll join the conference in football. The ACC needs to just tell them to join or get lost at this point. They had their chance in 2020 when they threw ND a scheduling life raft and should've forced their hand at that time.
 
As much as it pains me, ND is pretty much our only hope to retain some semblance of normalcy in college athletics. Once they fall, it’s all over. They’re the only school with enough clout to tell the networks what to do. They’re also the only school who could potentially keep the whole landscape of college football from free falling into NFL lite.

If ND says “**** it, we will join the B1G”, that will signal the final capitulation and end of traditional college athletics.
 
Not Sure said:
As much as it pains me, ND is pretty much our only hope to retain some semblance of normalcy in college athletics. Once they fall, it’s all over. They’re the only school with enough clout to tell the networks what to do. They’re also the only school who could potentially keep the whole landscape of college football from free falling into NFL lite.

If ND says “**** it, we will join the B1G”, that will signal the final capitulation and end of traditional college athletics.
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If ND is the only thing keeping "traditional" college athletics together, it is already dead. There is no way that sweaty little leprechaun could carry the whole load.
 
leftybuff said:
If ND is the only thing keeping "traditional" college athletics together, it is already dead. There is no way that sweaty little leprechaun could carry the whole load.
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If I squint really, really hard, I can see a CFP system with about 30 teams that have simply abandoned all pretense of educational focus and are just total sellouts to NIL, media money, etc. then I see another 50-60 teams that come to the conclusion that isn’t what they want to be. I see ND (and CU) in that second group. That second group could just go back to old fashioned college football with regional conferences and NYD bowls that mean something while allowing the money chasers to do their thing. But none of that happens if ND starts chasing money.
 
Not Sure said:
As much as it pains me, ND is pretty much our only hope to retain some semblance of normalcy in college athletics. Once they fall, it’s all over. They’re the only school with enough clout to tell the networks what to do. They’re also the only school who could potentially keep the whole landscape of college football from free falling into NFL lite.

If ND says “**** it, we will join the B1G”, that will signal the final capitulation and end of traditional college athletics.
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I don't think Notre Dame has the cachet they had at one time. They are still a strong Brand but they are not leading and everyone else following.
 
tante said:
The institutional support for CU compared to their peers is shocking.

University of Colorado Boulder | College Athletics Database

knightnewhousedata.org
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Addressed this awhile back….probably at least a hundred pages back.

CSU pumped $22M into their athletics department and I believe UNC spent more than CU did as well.

CU students also paid lower athletics fees in state and also within the PAC.

That’s an indictment against the school for not increasing student fees and also not spending at the level as their peers. Arizona spent $27M on their athletics department in that case. I’m not saying CU should spend like UA but it is so clear that CU could have done more for its AD.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Agreed, but until someone spells out how they get out of their GOR without forfeiting ~$700m, I don’t understand how it happens
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8 votes disbands.

If those 8 have assurances that they have a better situation waiting for them, it's over for the ACC.

At this point, I think ND will vote with the disbanding side. And if a partial member gets to cast the deciding vote the uproar will be so fvcking juicy.
 
#1 pick said:
Doesn't seem like much is going to happen outside of adding teams for the ACC. FSU doesn't have a home beyond the ACC. The B1G is waiting for only ND at this time. Travel is about to be a nightmare
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Not if one of the Arab countries offers use of their luxurious airlines as a travel partner.
 
PAC MAN said:
Addressed this awhile back….probably at least a hundred pages back.

CSU pumped $22M into their athletics department and I believe UNC spent more than CU did as well.

CU students also paid lower athletics fees in state and also within the PAC.

That’s an indictment against the school for not increasing student fees and also not spending at the level as their peers. Arizona spent $27M on their athletics department in that case. I’m not saying CU should spend like UA but it is so clear that CU could have done more for its AD.
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At the very least, the school could have covered the Covid shortfall instead of forcing the AD to take a $19MM loan when no other conference schools had to. This might be the biggest indictment of Phil DiStefano.
 
Not Sure said:
At the very least, the school could have covered the Covid shortfall instead of forcing the AD to take a $19MM loan when no other conference schools had to. This might be the biggest indictment of Phil DiStefano.
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If the PAC dissolved, is that money still due? That’s a good question to ask.
 
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