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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

jaybird said:
That is the exact stance I expected the departing 10 to take, which I stated in this thread before.

Legally, it should be ruled they are in full compliance with the bylaws.
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Your take is different than mine. you may be correct... We'll see where this goes
 
I’m absolutely shocked. SHOCKED! that there’s litigation over this. Who could have guessed this would happen?
 
hokiehead said:
Your take is different than mine. you may be correct... We'll see where this goes
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The only possible wrinkle I see is the court possibly being biased, but that then should be won on appeal.

To me, a plain reading of the text is fairly straight forward, but you are right, we shall see.

Although I still think the ultimate conclusion of this whole thing is a negotiated settlement.
 
jaybird said:
The only possible wrinkle I see is the court possibly being biased, but that then should be won on appeal.

To me, a plain reading of the text is fairly straight forward, but you are right, we shall see.

Although I still think the ultimate conclusion of this whole thing is a negotiated settlement.
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agree 100% on last statement
 
this is a new wrinkle

The University of Washington filed a motion to intervene in Whitman County (Wash.) Superior Court on Monday, seeking to join the lawsuit filed by Washington State and Oregon State against the Pac-12 and commissioner George Kliavkoff.

If granted, the motion would pave the way for Washington to file a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, which neither the school nor the nine other departing Pac-12 universities -- Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Oregon, UCLA, UC Berkeley, USC, Utah and Stanford -- currently has the authority to do while not a party to the lawsuit. UW acted on behalf of the 10 universities primarily for jurisdictional reasons, as the original complaint was filed in Washington.
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ESPN link
 
hokiehead said:
I'm not sure I can find a grain of salt large enough to take with this, but, anyway

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That’s a terrible list that screams they bracing for many current members leaving, including maybe some to the Big 12, IMO. If Clemson and FSU find a way out to the SEC, I don’t see Miami, UNC, Louisville, Duke, Pitt and Virginia schools agreeing to stay and backfilling with those programs.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
That’s a terrible list that screams they bracing for many current members leaving, including maybe some to the Big 12, IMO. If Clemson and FSU find a way out to the SEC, I don’t see Miami, UNC, Louisville, Duke, Pitt and Virginia schools agreeing to stay and backfilling with those programs.
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I think you're right -- if those three leave, there's virtually no hope of saving the ACC

I'll go a step further, at this moment in time, the most realistic hope I see for the ACC is to somehow convince ND to join as a full member in the short term

but also, I don't have too much faith that the GoR will stand up in court. I realize that's a minority opinion though, and, if I'm wrong, then I guess the courts are the most realistic chance.
 
PAC MAN said:
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Ok. Assuming that would go East-West, the West would be:

WSU
OSU
BYU
Utah
US
ASU
CU

Then the 4 most "western" by longitude would be TTU, KSU, Baylor and TCU.

If that's the split, the East would be ISU, KU, OSU, UH, Cincy, WVU, UCF, Louisville, Pitt, NCSU & VT.

Probably swap Baylor for KU to balance TX in the divisions with 2 each and to keep the KU-KSU rivalry.

I don't love it. Would actually prefer going to 24 with 4 divisions of 6 teams & 2 divisions on each side (East/West). Could play a fixed 5 opponents, 3/6 from the other division on your side, and 1 game against each of the other 2 divisions for a 10-game conference schedule.
 
Buffnik said:
Ok. Assuming that would go East-West, the West would be:

WSU
OSU
BYU
Utah
US
ASU
CU

Then the 4 most "western" by longitude would be TTU, KSU, Baylor and TCU.

If that's the split, the East would be ISU, KU, OSU, UH, Cincy, WVU, UCF, Louisville, Pitt, NCSU & VT.

Probably swap Baylor for KU to balance TX in the divisions with 2 each and to keep the KU-KSU rivalry.

I don't love it. Would actually prefer going to 24 with 4 divisions of 6 teams & 2 divisions on each side (East/West). Could play a fixed 5 opponents, 3/6 from the other division on your side, and 1 game against each of the other 2 divisions for a 10-game conference schedule.
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Great here goes Nik again.
 
skibum said:
Ummm... 22 schools with 11 team divisions and a 10 game round-robin schedule is just two conferences with unified management, because "round robin schedule" means that the two divisions never actually play each other.
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That aligns with Yormark's desire to have basketball media rights separate from football. In a 22 school conference, there would be 22 conference games with just one round robin game against a designated rival.

Gonzaga is also in serious discussions with the Big 12. Maybe there will be 23 teams and the Big 12 is renamed the Dr. Pepper Conference given their 23 flavors.
 
PAC MAN said:
That aligns with Yormark's desire to have basketball media rights separate from football. In a 22 school conference, there would be 22 conference games with just one round robin game against a designated rival.

Gonzaga is also in serious discussions with the Big 12. Maybe there will be 23 teams and the Big 12 is renamed the Dr. Pepper Conference given their 23 flavors.
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I don't think you understand what "round robin" means in terms of scheduling.
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Hokie, it would suck to have your two favorite teams in the same league?
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suck doesn't begin to describe it

I'd have to come to terms with some hard realities and make some real compromises as a fan. I mean, I've rationalized that "I don't have three college teams I root for... I have one ACC team, one Pac 12 team and one B1G team". I don't think it's possible -- for me -- to have two teams in the same conference.
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Hokie, it would suck to have your two favorite teams in the same league?
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Yes on VT for Hokie. Pitt makes sense for WVU/Cincy. But….Oregon state and WSU…..

No Thanks Dislike GIF by Rooster Teeth
 
skibum said:
Ummm... 22 schools with 11 team divisions and a 10 game round-robin schedule is just two conferences with unified management, because "round robin schedule" means that the two divisions never actually play each other.
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And I sure hope that management team works out too. Cause now there is no where else conference wise to go.

Ten in conference games also means fewer OOC games.

Another thing that occurs to me is how fans react to these mega conferences over the long haul. In the SEC and B1G the schools are getting a big check to be a speed bump and this is where the bigger names are now. Not so much in the TS12. One loss teams held out of the CCG and then missing the CFP could become a thing. It’ll be interesting to see how folks feel come 2029.
 
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