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'12 CO C Josh Scott (Signed to Colorado)

I like how the article mentions the Scott brothers combined for 55 points - 29 from Josh and 16 from Jordan ...
 
Thoughts from a poster on Rivals, LouisvilleBuff who went to both games yesterday.

http://colorado.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=422&tid=171578368&mid=171578368&sid=894&style=2

JMO on Scott and Gordon based on watching them play yesterday. Just food for thought for the board.

1) For 3 qrts, Scott was basically a rebounder, defender and passer out of double teams. And he did this very well but it was not what I was expecting to see from such a highly ranked player. Scott was not great at getting good post position down low. Also his teammates including his brother didn't appear to have either the desire or the skill to pass the ball to him down low. Scott had 8 pts through 3 qtrs mainly on put backs and foul shots.

Things changed greatly in the 4th quarter. Scott was moved to the high post at the elbows of the foul line. After that the Lewis Palmer offense pretty much ran through Scott. Moving Scott to the high post eliminated the immediate double teams on catching the ball and allowed him to face up to the basket. Playing pretty much one on one against the Valor defender, Scott drove at will with either hand. He dominated the 4th quarter scoring 14 pts and giving Lewis Palmer the win.

Scott showed a very good ability to get very low and athletic and drive to the basket. He didn't just bump and back down his defender to get to the rim but rather a quick first step to blow by the defender. He also finished very well in the 4th quarter.

2) Gordon played a team that was ideally suited for his skills. Broomfield's offense was based on penetration by it's undersized but quick guards. Well the guards did a great job of penetration but Gordon was there just about every time to block the shot. Gordon truly is a master at blocking shots whether he is the primary or secondary defender. He is very quick off his feet, has great length and quickness and can hover in the air even if he jumps to soon. He had great timing on blocking most of his shots.

Also as a rebounder, Gordon showed good physical strength and hustle to beat block outs. Also the kid looks like he can really jump vertically.

Offensively, Gordon shows very little skill and confidence around the rim. Based on this one game, he has very little skill in establishing position down low and pinning his opponent on his hip. Gordon basically stood straight up and put his hand up high when trying to call for the ball down low. The Broomfield defenders although undersized had little trouble getting in position to deny any entry pass.

As far as offensive confidence around the rim, Gordon repeatedly passed up open jump shots from 5 to 8 ft to pass to a teammate under the basket. Sometimes the teammate was open but on several occasions Gordon was more open than the teammate he passed to. Most of Gordon's points came on dishes from driving teammates or put backs over smaller defenders.

A couple of little notes on Gordon. First, Gordon runs and plays the game on the balls of his feet. Running down the court he almost "prances", getting too much vertical lift and looks kind of dorky. For those of you who remember think Kevin McHale of the Celtics. However playing D on the balls of his feet also allows him to be the shot blocker he is. He is always ready to jump and gets off his feet very quickly with great vertical leap.

Second, in warmups, Gordon repeatedly showed a very good mid range jumper. He made just about everything from about 15 ft in warmups with little effort and very good technique. In the actual game, I don't remember him taking one 15 ft shot.

3) Physically Gordon looks more ready to bang inside. I didn't see Scott and Gordon next to each other but Gordon looks to be about the same height as Scott and carreis more muscle at this point.

4) All this leads to my biggest take away from the night. Before seeing the 2 players live, I was thinking Scott would be a center and Gordon a power forward in college based mainly on physical height. After seeing them play, JMO Gordon is more of a center and Scott more of a power forward. Gordon with his shot blocking ability needs to be around the rim on D. While Scott appears to be able to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim on offense. Also, as of now Gordon has the body to bang around the glass with the big boys.

Remember this is just one person's opinion based on seeing each player play exactly one game. Also the final between these players should be a real good game. Both Scott and Gordon have excellent HS players on their team. It should be a fun game.

One final thought, Roberson is going to have a very hard time keeping up his 11 rebs a game average next year. Scott, Gordon, Johnson and Jenkins will all rebound better than any one on the Buffs current roster not named Roberson. I see a several players having 8 to 10 rebounds in any particular game next year.
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Just out of curiosity I am very excited for both Gordan and Scott. What I don't understand is why the reviews of Scott in person are not flattering. I guess I expect a top 80 player that is coming out of Colorado would stand out against the competition. Basketball is on the up swing in colorado but it is far from great high school basketball. What makes Scott not stand out?
 
FightCu1414 said:
Just out of curiosity I am very excited for both Gordan and Scott. What I don't understand is why the reviews of Scott in person are not flattering. I guess I expect a top 80 player that is coming out of Colorado would stand out against the competition. Basketball is on the up swing in colorado but it is far from great high school basketball. What makes Scott not stand out?
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Unrealistic expectations. He's very team oriented and gets other involved, is very coachable, and executes the game plan. Last night, he took over when it was time to do so to get the win. He could score 40 a night if that's what was asked of him.
 
FightCu1414 said:
Just out of curiosity I am very excited for both Gordan and Scott. What I don't understand is why the reviews of Scott in person are not flattering. I guess I expect a top 80 player that is coming out of Colorado would stand out against the competition. Basketball is on the up swing in colorado but it is far from great high school basketball. What makes Scott not stand out?
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honestly, he does stand out. I was comparing him to his hype.
 
Nice article from Adam on Josh Scott. All three of the Colorado signees have been state champions now that Scott won the 4A title this year. He also drops a nice little quote about Wesley Gordon in there:

"I played against [four-star Kentucky signee] Willie Cauley and [five-star Baylor signee] Isaiah Austin in AAU games and Wesley is right up there with them in terms of his shot blocking and rebounding," Scott said. "He is not up there with them offensively yet, but I think Wesley is a very underrated player. [CU head] coach [Tad] Boyle has a knack for recruiting players like that."
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Goose said:
Nice article from Adam on Josh Scott. All three of the Colorado signees have been state champions now that Scott won the 4A title this year. He also drops a nice little quote about Wesley Gordon in there:
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absolutely agree, he is going to great for us on the defensive end. The best part is they have all trained at altitude so there will be no adjustment period. I am a little worried about how many minutes that XJ will be able to give us early next season.
 
LouisvilleBuff said:
One final thought, Roberson is going to have a very hard time keeping up his 11 rebs a game average next year. Scott, Gordon, Johnson and Jenkins will all rebound better than any one on the Buffs current roster not named Roberson. I see a several players having 8 to 10 rebounds in any particular game next year.
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:thumbsup: Hope this happens!
 
ScotchBuff said:
:thumbsup: Hope this happens!
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His average may go down but Roberson will still get his share of rebounds, the guy has a mentality that every ball should be his and there isn't any good reason he shouldn't get it.

That said if he doesn't have to focus on rebounding as much he can then put more attention into locking down guys on defense, another skill he has but has put less emphasis on since we have needed him on the boards.
 
I expect Roberson's rebounds to go down a bit this year.

That's a good thing. If he can be around 9 or 10 instead of this season's 11, it will mean that others are providing help and he can expend more energy on his offense and help defense.

If Dre's rebounds go down a bit but his scoring, steals and blocks go up then I think we'll be a much better team.
 
Buffnik said:
I expect Roberson's rebounds to go down a bit this year.

That's a good thing. If he can be around 9 or 10 instead of this season's 11, it will mean that others are providing help and he can expend more energy on his offense and help defense.

If Dre's rebounds go down a bit but his scoring, steals and blocks go up then I think we'll be a much better team.
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Having his #'s go up in the other two catagories will definitely help but I just can't see his rebounds going down. The guy is a machine on the boards. Just a natural ability to judge where the ball is going to end up. It will help to have some more beef inside, if anything I think his rebounding #'s might go up. Crazy.
 
Buffnik said:
I expect Roberson's rebounds to go down a bit this year.

That's a good thing. If he can be around 9 or 10 instead of this season's 11, it will mean that others are providing help and he can expend more energy on his offense and help defense.

If Dre's rebounds go down a bit but his scoring, steals and blocks go up then I think we'll be a much better team.
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I just look forward to the day where we're dominating down low instead of the other way around. Think Dre will be fine on the boards, but if he can develop a consistent jump shot, look out!
 
He reminds me of Tim Duncan a little when he was just getting to Wake especially with how their bodies look. Think Tim had a little more length maybe. Josh actually handles the ball better than Tim did at that age, dude can handle the rock like a guard. Certainly not hyping him up to be the best power forward to ever play, they just look similar to me is all. I really like Gordon as well, like to see him be more aggressive tho. I watched that championship game on tv, he stacked up pretty well against Scott when he was more aggressive. Maybe more assertive would be a better word to describe what Id like to see from Gordon.
 
BuffLuKe said:
He reminds me of Tim Duncan a little when he was just getting to Wake especially with how their bodies look. Think Tim had a little more length maybe. Josh actually handles the ball better than Tim did at that age, dude can handle the rock like a guard. Certainly not hyping him up to be the best power forward to ever play, they just look similar to me is all. I really like Gordon as well, like to see him be more aggressive tho. I watched that championship game on tv, he stacked up pretty well against Scott when he was more aggressive. Maybe more assertive would be a better word to describe what Id like to see from Gordon.
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I hadn't thought about that before, but I can see the Duncan comparison, at least from a physical standpoint. Now he just needs that 15-18 foot jumper TD had!
 
The final Scout recruiting rankings for 2012 have been released and Josh Scott is the #46 recruit in the nation and the #13 center.

:gobuffs:
 
Goose said:
The final Scout recruiting rankings for 2012 have been released and Josh Scott is the #46 recruit in the nation and the #13 center.

:gobuffs:
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scout really really like our recruits. I wonder where he ranked in terms of power forwards.
 
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