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'12 TX DE Victor Irokansi (Signed to Oklahoma State)
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I'm with you, I was trying to preempt doom and gloom if he de-commits.
Not surprised if true, also not heartbroken. If he ends up at CU I will welcome him but he is certainly not the kind of recruit who makes or breaks a class. Hopefully we are in on some better DEs.
I agree, some very good ones still out there.
Heeeeeey Victor, why did you leave our team?
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JRK1212
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Don't use the Bigbang logic here, just because there are good players left doesn't mean that were going to get them; the two Hawaii DE's for example are no longer considering us. Maybe Ironkansi isin't a great player but I wouldn't assume that we'll just end up getting someone better, I was very happy to have him. Hopefully we still get an official visit.
Highlander27
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With this kid's limp wristed commitment a few weeks back, where he could even answer about his own word straight, i would have rescinded it on the spot. No surprise the kid flips about a week or two later.
This kid was already playing behind Juda Parker and Nembot in my eyes, and that wouldn't have changed any time soon. The kid is a project and could have contributed by his junior year but not really anything to weep over. Better to eliminate kids like this early as they'll always be looking around. I doubt OSU is his final stop either. [video=youtube;MBfYQOSSPqc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfYQOSSPqc&NR=1[/video]
This kid was already playing behind Juda Parker and Nembot in my eyes, and that wouldn't have changed any time soon. The kid is a project and could have contributed by his junior year but not really anything to weep over. Better to eliminate kids like this early as they'll always be looking around. I doubt OSU is his final stop either. [video=youtube;MBfYQOSSPqc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfYQOSSPqc&NR=1[/video]
Found this funny....
Since when is having a losing record, four 10 win seasons, zero national titles, being in a dieing conference and could easily be playing in the C-USA in a few years, and zero conference titles since 1976 big time football? Oh well not too surprised. This quote pretty much said he was holding a spot until something better came along:
Best of luck to him but I won't be sweating this one.
Since when is having a losing record, four 10 win seasons, zero national titles, being in a dieing conference and could easily be playing in the C-USA in a few years, and zero conference titles since 1976 big time football? Oh well not too surprised. This quote pretty much said he was holding a spot until something better came along:
Best of luck to him but I won't be sweating this one.
Really depends if we're shifting to a 3-4 or not. If we do, then DTs like Pericak and Hennington play DE. What we really need in that case is NTs and OLBs.
Highlander27
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It seems like this year's team would be perfectly setup to make that transition to the 3-4. We're deep at DT, shallow at DE but have a few OLB's who could bump down and play on the LOS. I also think Rippy & Webb would be ideal sitting in the middle of this defense along with Nobriga/Daigh. I could see our front seven shaking out like this.
NT - Cunningham/Richter/Bonsu - shorter, stocky guys, can hold the point take up blocks.
DT/DE's - Pericek/Obi/Kasa/Nembot/ Poston, a few other upper classmen like Poremba, etc. A little taller, have weight to hold the point, yet length to stretch out plays.
OLB - Major, Hartigan, Parker, Chidera - They need athletic ability, ability to close quickly, and natural pass rushing ability. I think all of these guys have that.
MLB - Webb, Rippy, Daigh, Nobriga - Two down run stuffers fit the bill here but need to have awareness when they drop in their zones.
I won't break down the secondary but I wish we would hurry up and move towards this type of defense.
NT - Cunningham/Richter/Bonsu - shorter, stocky guys, can hold the point take up blocks.
DT/DE's - Pericek/Obi/Kasa/Nembot/ Poston, a few other upper classmen like Poremba, etc. A little taller, have weight to hold the point, yet length to stretch out plays.
OLB - Major, Hartigan, Parker, Chidera - They need athletic ability, ability to close quickly, and natural pass rushing ability. I think all of these guys have that.
MLB - Webb, Rippy, Daigh, Nobriga - Two down run stuffers fit the bill here but need to have awareness when they drop in their zones.
I won't break down the secondary but I wish we would hurry up and move towards this type of defense.
I've seen the 3-4 switch mentioned a few times on this board. Is this something that has been put out there by the coaches already or is it silent speculation by a lot of people? Just curious because the switch makes sense, I just haven't seen anything "official" on it.
True, although we are not exactly in great shape with OLBs either.
Coaches haven't said anything. It's just that when you follow recruiting closely it's apparent that we are recruiting a lot of DE/OLB tweeners (LBs - inside or out in a 3-4), a lot of LB/S tweeners (rover position when you go to a nickel / 3-3-5 stack out of that base), tall DTs/oversized DEs like Nembot (prototype 3-4 DE) and huge DTs such as Solis and some of the other offers (NT in 3-4). Plus there have been moves such as switching the strongest guy on the team, Richter, to DT from his guard position. He's certainly not a 4-3 shoot the gap DT, but he can anchor at NT in a 3-4.
Maybe we're not making this move, but a lot of decisions make more sense if we are. Chief among them is hiring Kanavis McGhee as a DL coach when we already had Tui on board. If he's coaching 3-4 OLBs that sometimes play with their hand down and sometimes play in space, he brings a lot to the party with specific expertise there that Cabral and Tui don't have. Also, Brown as a DC would seem to be a similar guy to Dick LeBeau who has been orchestrating that Steelers 3-4 zone blitzing scheme for years (elite DB coach who is very creative in the Xs and Os department).
Bottom line: no announcement or suggestion that this is the direction from any of the interviews, but a lot of us just don't get some of the moves if we're not going that way.
Yeah. I don't expect it this year. The 3-4 DE and OLB techniques takes a while to learn. Plus, one of our most effective DLs is Cunningham and he has to be in a 4-3 at his size. He can't anchor at NT in a 3-4 and he doesn't have the length to play 3-4 DE. We also don't have enough linebackers to do it. I think our base will be very similar to what we have been running. Frankly, that's a hybrid of a 4-3 and a 3-4 anyway. We have a NT, a DT, a big DE like a Kasa and then a OLB/DE pass rush specialist where we have used Beatty and Hartigan. Against passing teams or on passing downs, we bring in that 5th DB we call a nickel corner but it has usually been Rover types or Safeties that we used there last year (Nobriga, Sandersfeld and Orms).
Well, best of luck to him. I can understand a TX kid wanting to play in the Big 12-2, lots of trips to places near home top play. Okie Lite has Boone, and that's about it. Never once in the CCG, and now lined up for annual butt kickings from UT and OU. The Alamo Bowl is the pinnacle of their CFB achievement and the best they can hope for....but their coach is a man, so they have that going for them.
That is true of every position on the roster, isn't it?
I was talking in terms of high school prospects for the 2012 class. Not sure we are on the radar of many top players right now.
A good showing in Hawaii could change that though correct?
1st two games. We beat Hawaii and Cal, then CU becomes very legit with western recruits.
Idot Buff
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And Stillwater? Ugh. I once thought that there are worse places in the US. Ever been to Wendover, Nevada? That place is located deep within God's hairy ass. But, I will take it over any location in OK (or Nebraska, if anyone is asking).
Poor kid. Oh well. Big Daddy Pickens has built some pretty impressive facilities. I work with a lady who's bro is a proffessor there. The faculty was really pissed when T. Boone gave all that money to the AD. At least thats what she said.
Edit: WTF is that " " ****? :lol:
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I actually kind of liked Stillwater when I was there, if for no other reason than the chili cheese fries at Eskimo Joe's. I'd take it over anywhere in Nebraska for sure.