After seeing the heart and chracter he played with for the last 4 years, and now has demonstrated in getting ready for the draft, he may go down as my all-time favorite Buff.
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2018 CU NFL Draft & Free Agency Thread
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After seeing the heart and chracter he played with for the last 4 years, and now has demonstrated in getting ready for the draft, he may go down as my all-time favorite Buff.
AllStarBuffs
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when was the last time the Broncos drafted a CU player?
Sproles was thicker and had better top end speed. Love speedy, but I don't think he compares favorably to sproles unless you are talking about pass blocking.
Not really sure, but 8/9 reps on bench, high 4.6s in 40 and 28(!!!) inch vertical is basically a complete job interview meltdown.
Edit: His L Drill was also closer to Tim Coleman, George Frazier and Leo Jackson than it was to his receiver counterparts.
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Yeah I always remembered Sproles being thicker, but looking it up he was only 190, but at 5'6" that's pretty thick. I think Lindsay can get to that weight and be comparable to what Sproles was. Not sure what Sproles ran his 40 in, but even a hand time 4.39 is plenty fast to be in that kind of role.
He's very similar to Sproles as a pass catcher. Sproles had the reputation of having exceptional speed, but I think Lindsay's 40 time yesterday put him in a similar category. Here's another comparison: Eric Bienemy.
Lindsay is short. That’s pretty much the only knock. He catches, he’s got speed, he blocks, he gets yards after contact, he avoids initial tacklers, he doesn’t fumble, and he’s the hardest working guy in the room.
Height isn’t an important thing for RBs. Being shorter is sometimes an advantage even in short yardage because the back can hide behind those behemoths on the OL.
Height isn’t an important thing for RBs. Being shorter is sometimes an advantage even in short yardage because the back can hide behind those behemoths on the OL.
l'm less concerned with his height and more with him weighing in at 184 lbs. Even for a change-of-pace, 3rd down, pass catching RB, that is light. Hopefully there is one team out there that thinks everything he brings to the table is worth a late round flyer and that they can get him to put on another 10-15 lbs.
I suspect he slimmed down a bit to post that 40 and he’ll play at 5-10 lbs heavier
Lindsay stated in the video when asked what he is hearing from (nfl scouts) "some want me to be a slot"
With his limitations of size could this be the approach Lindsay should take to get his best opportunity in the NFL? Probably more comps at Slot WR/APB than feature RB. Come on Broncos and Draft this guy....put the Isaiah McKenzie (5'7" 173) debacle to rest
Quizz Rodgers 5'6" 195 RB
TY Hilton 5'9" 180
Steve Smith 5'9" 195
Antonio Brown 5'10" 180
Tyreek Hill 5'10" 185
Randall Cobb 5'10 190
Emmanuel Sanders 5'11" 180
Danny Amendola 5'11" 190
In his favor he has shown in the opportunities he has had that he can catch the ball in traffic, that he can catch and hold on with contact, that he can catch the ball and transition into YAC mode, and that he will fight through and get to the ball In traffic which even when he can't catch the ball reduces the chance of an INT.
Ultimately his future in the league is going to depend on what he can do on special teams though and his toughness will help him a lot in that area even though he is small.
I really think he'll get drafted as a third down back type, especially with how great of a blocker he is. At one point in the season IIRC according to PFF he was 100% picking up blitzes. I think that cancels out some of his size concern and gets him picked because there aren't a lot of third down backs who you can rely on in max protection situations like that.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...pects-ready-to-contribute-to-the-passing-game
Here it is, one sack given up in 483 protection snaps in his entire career.
Here it is, one sack given up in 483 protection snaps in his entire career.
Pad level theory at its finest.
I think an optimistic, yet reasonable comparison for Lindsay is Napolean Kaufman. Similar height, weight, speed and toughness. Similar size related questions by scouts.
Napolean was 5'8.5", 182 .. similar college stats at UW, and had a nice career with the Raiders before retiring early to become a minister. Phil won't be a first rounder but Napolean shouldn't have been either...
Kaufman did 24 bench reps vs 14, but Phil timed better in the 40 (4.48 vs 4.39). Vertical 38 to 35. Both highly versatile but I think there's a perception that Phil isn't quite the freak that someone like Kaufman was.
I think the pro day will change perceptions. Maybe 6th round? He'd be a steal.
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Napoleon&l=Kaufman&i=23619
Napolean was 5'8.5", 182 .. similar college stats at UW, and had a nice career with the Raiders before retiring early to become a minister. Phil won't be a first rounder but Napolean shouldn't have been either...
Kaufman did 24 bench reps vs 14, but Phil timed better in the 40 (4.48 vs 4.39). Vertical 38 to 35. Both highly versatile but I think there's a perception that Phil isn't quite the freak that someone like Kaufman was.
I think the pro day will change perceptions. Maybe 6th round? He'd be a steal.
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Napoleon&l=Kaufman&i=23619
It was funny when Darian Hagan called Bienemy "a rugged little pig".
Congrats, PRich...getting paid!!!
They just lost their qb.
DrunkRalphie
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Washington has Alex Smith.
uh so.
Wasn't he one of the top rated passers in the NFL?
Sure but I don't put much stock into those numbers these days.
You don’t put much stock in an NFL QB throwing for 4000 yards 26 tds and 5 pics?
Uncle Luko is only impressed if you can throw a football over them mountains.
Not really, you can't hit anyone anymore. It makes a difference.