Just a cool video edit we made for him. The end shows OV June 21-23 which is when his was originally scheduled.
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Verbal to other '25 GA QB Julian Lewis
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I think it's a hype video for his June visit.
Yea, I didn't watch the entire video
It's a shorter runtime than Ben-Hur, worth the watch.
Scotty ****ing McKnight
I’m telling you what’s gonna help the most is when Caleb Williams absolutely sh!ts the bed for the Bears and USC gets mudholed in the Big10 next year. It’s going happen and it’s going to be a disaster. Just watch.
Playing in the Big1G vs the Big12 is also going to be a big issue to overcome. While Power 4, not One of The Power 2 and probably the lowest of the P4. DOOM!
SeanMSan
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Is the whole USC/Lincoln Riley QB thing really that crazy? Aside from Caleb Williams, what QB did Lincoln have for the full college career of that player? Aside from Jalen Hurts, which one has had the sustained successes that they experienced in college?
For USC what QB has transitioned into the pros with the same successes experienced while at SC? Mark Sanchez?!(teehee)
2 needs to go ham this year, but most importantly - WIN - and let the personal stats build up from that. Hopefully being in Chicago will write the Williams story enough to cause concern of Lincoln Riley’s “QB Whispering” praise when it comes to the next level.
…CU next year Juju…
For USC what QB has transitioned into the pros with the same successes experienced while at SC? Mark Sanchez?!(teehee)
2 needs to go ham this year, but most importantly - WIN - and let the personal stats build up from that. Hopefully being in Chicago will write the Williams story enough to cause concern of Lincoln Riley’s “QB Whispering” praise when it comes to the next level.
…CU next year Juju…
You’re forgetting #1 draft choices Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray.Is the whole USC/Lincoln Riley QB thing really that crazy? Aside from Caleb Williams, what QB did Lincoln have for the full college career of that player? Aside from Jalen Hurts, which one has had the sustained successes that they experienced in college?
For USC what QB has transitioned into the pros with the same successes experienced while at SC? Mark Sanchez?!(teehee)
2 needs to go ham this year, but most importantly - WIN - and let the personal stats build up from that. Hopefully being in Chicago will write the Williams story enough to cause concern of Lincoln Riley’s “QB Whispering” praise when it comes to the next level.
…CU next year Juju…
SeanMSan
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No. 1 draft choices, sure…but both seem/seemed to have slumpy stretches. Baker is on his third team since the 2020 season, and Murray doesn’t seem to be talked about in the why, either, in a few season
So you're saying he should go to Texas Tech? Or Wyoming? Or how about ride the bench for a few years at Ohio State and then transfer to LSU?
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Baker has been mid in the NFL, but to his credit is trying to revitalize his career and Murray is a sh!t NFL quarterback if we're being honest. Williams is going to struggle in the NFL. Riley churns out system QBs that flourish in programs that focus 90% on offense. Curious if there's a platform that will let you bet CU vs USC's total 2024 wins, because I would be very interested in taking CU. Riley's going to be on the hot seat after next season.
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GRM
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Lama: agree with you on USC/Riley. A close friend in an SC grad that lives in Orange county, so we have followed each-other's teams closely. This morning he said that it is eerie with "no buzz whatsoever" at all around USC football. OC Register, LA Times . . . really very little news. Fans hardly noticed the Spring Game. Fact is since the end of 2022 season, they are an 8-7 team going from the Top 5 to outside the Top 25. We're at a loss to understand why Riley/SC continue to get the white glove treatment from the press/prognosticators? Despite having Williams, I thought they regressed team-wise the last 3-4 seasons, specifically on defense + physicality. Then not the sort of depth SC teams generally display.
Last year, they were pummeled by any physical teams in the PAC--and this year they play more physical teams in the B1G. Last year (8-5), they were basically boat raced in the 5 big losses: ORE, UW, UCLA forget about it. UU was close on the scoreboard, as they just rallied in the 4th on a pick-6 and KR almost for a score, but UU was using back-up QB. Beat Zona and Cal by 3 points. CU they held on. They were close to closing out of the season losing 7 or 8 straight. The Bowl win over Louisville was a bright spot, as Miller Moss played well, but it was the Holiday Bowl. This was their only good win in 23. In 2022, they have an 11 win season w/ Williams as Heisman, but sort of a mirage, as they got a cream puff PAC schedule (no UW, Ore), and their good wins were both in LA--UCLA and ND (but they lost to Marshall and 3-9 Stanford, then just thrashed by Utah in the PAC-12 Championship. Close out giving up 49 points to Tulane in bowl.
In the portal, they lost 29 guys and only filled with 16--so down 13 guys, plus they graduated a bunch of players to the NFL--11. When you look at their portal numbers they lost blue-chip recruit after blue chip recruit and other than Greedy Vance (maybe Raikes), the guys that they picked up were all from the PAC or not great P64 teams. Kyle Ford is viewed as their best pickup. I think Riley has really bonked in SoCal HS recruiting--they seem to portal down like the Buffs, which is odd given Riley's recruiting accolades and SC's stature. Although, Riley's initial transfer portal year was solid, last season's class was sort of tepid outside of Bear Alexander--bunch of guys re-entering. I'd like to see that bet too.
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Both are starters in the NFL and won the Heisman Trophy. Diminishing that record is a strange hill.
GRM
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Scrutinizing Heisman//NFL starters is strange, however I think the Lama is onto something. Maybe SC/Riley really coaches a great "systems offense" (i.e. Leach, old Houston teams--David Klingler, Andre Ware, etc...) with extreme focus/stats to the QB position?? Maybe the pundits just have not labeled Riley's offense as a "systems offense." Looking at Riley's defenses (really the lack thereof), his teams are either in shootouts because Grinch stunk and they lacked talent on defense, or the offensive system puts them in track-meet type games given talent at QB/WR, then racking up massive stats. Score in bunches, 3 & out in bunches, turnover here/there = shootout games where they throw it 30+ times.
I saw this from a couple days ago. The press still likes SC... but Riley's horrible defense numbers really stick out to his OU days: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sports/2024-chaos-scenarios-lincoln-riley-actually-has-defense/ But they might have Riley questions:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...ollege-football-coaching-rankings/ar-BB1mWqRv
Given this thread is about Juju Lewis, whether he flips or not, SC's move to the B1G next year will probably show: (1) if Riley can adjust and play his offense anywhere + see if it can complement with some defense; (2) whether that conference is tough on QB play--weather, opponents "taking the air out of the ball," so just not the massive stats expected ; and (3) whether Riley is even around next year at SC. SC has a ton of moving parts, but if SC falters and is under .500, he could be out or onto the NFL--then Juju to CU makes sense. Outside of CU, Juju may decide other conferences are more QB friendly than the B1G.
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Riley gets the kid glove treatment from a lot of the media because he is a master sucking up to the media and making them feel like he really cares what they say. After getting the USC job he made a point of going on all of the national shows and even on a lot of the big local ones that were outside of the market plus all the local shows. He is kind of like Mack Brown was making these guys feel like he is their best buddy.
His teams also play a fun brand of football to cover. Recruits very good offensive talent, especially QBs and WRs and puts on a show. He recruits better talent defensively than he is given credit for, he has a number of his defensive players in the NFL, but they never meet expectations which usually isn't a problem because he outscores the opponents.
He had a history before USC though of having really good seasons ruined by one or two losses to teams that weren't close to as talented as his. He would lose to Iowa State or Kansas State, usually late in the season.
Wish I could remember who said it but listening the radio the other day heard a guy with a lot of NFL experience saying he expects Caleb Williams to really struggle. Said that his offense at USC was very simple compared to NFL offenses but the numbers looked good because Riley would get a very talented WR locked up on a less talented DB and Williams just had to follow him and wait for him to come wide open. He's not used to having to make multiple reads, hit a WR in a short time window when he is open, and get the ball into the window that passes for open in the NFL.
USC was legitimately 6-7 plays away from being 5-7 last year. There are 5 for sure losses on their schedule next year. The seat's gonna get hot sooner rather than later.
SeanMSan
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Not at all, just saying that the whole Lincoln Riley and/or USC QB whispering schtick is way more seasoning than substance.
Though, I do feel bad for Caleb Williams going to Chicago. They seem to all but kill a young QB’s career. The last three potential “savior” QB’s time as a Bear could be summed up with a name of many Modest Mouse album titles…
SeanMSan
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Tim Tebow and Cam Newton also won the Heisman and were starters in their time
While Cam was pretty good, he seemed to fall from grace like Baker. Tim Tebow was moved to different positions and eventually tried out for pro baseball…
sounds…similar to a possible career projection.
Cam Newton won the NFL MVP award in 2015 and has been to three Pro Bowls. I’d say that’s a pretty good career. He should not be compared to Tim Tebow.Tim Tebow and Cam Newton also won the Heisman and were starters in their time
While Cam was pretty good, he seemed to fall from grace like Baker. Tim Tebow was moved to different positions and eventually tried out for pro baseball…
If Caleb Williams makes three Pro Bowls, I think the Bears will be feeling pretty good about the pick. And Tim Tebow was nowhere near the #1 overall pick. So, um…
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