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Signed to CU '26 TNFR WR DeAndre Moore Jr.

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Love the signing!

Now...STOP signing WRs.
 
We don’t, but that’s not the reason they’re good. Yet. He didn’t start injecting money into their athletic department until last offseason. And even then, word is it paled in comparison to what programs like Georgia, Texas, Texas Tech were getting (are still getting).

Indiana got good because they struck gold with Curt Cignetti. That’s the only reason.
It is not the only reason.

Indiana retained the players they wanted to keep with raises from Cuban’s increased donations from 2024 to 2025. They got money from Cuban to get Mendoza who was one of the top QBs in the portal. Their base pay was around $35-$36 million. After winning the B1G and making the CFP final, they will be a $40+ million roster ($40mm for making it and more if they win).
 
It is not the only reason.

Indiana retained the players they wanted to keep with raises from Cuban’s increased donations from 2024 to 2025. They got money from Cuban to get Mendoza who was one of the top QBs in the portal. Their base pay was around $35-$36 million. After winning the B1G and making the CFP final, they will be a $40+ million roster ($40mm for making it and more if they win).
Now tell us how much extra a school is paid for every playoff game they play in and win…
 
The school’s contributions to player pay is capped. Billionaire sugar daddy contributions are not.
My point is, if certain players’ incentive pay increased because of winning games, the amount the school was compensated for participating and winning those games more than makes up for it. There’s a misguided perception that Mark Cuban : Indiana what Phil Knight : Oregon or Cody Campbell : Texas Tech. In real life, his contributions to that program aren’t as dramatic as you make it out to be.
 
My point is, if certain players’ incentive pay increased because of winning games, the amount the school was compensated for participating and winning those games more than makes up for it. There’s a misguided perception that Mark Cuban : Indiana what Phil Knight : Oregon or Cody Campbell : Texas Tech. In real life, his contributions to that program aren’t as dramatic as you make it out to be.
1) the players do not receive a portion of revenue share for playoff games from the school. Anything beyond the school’s $20.5 million is paid by their donors.

2) there’s a misperception on your part about how much Cuban spent. He already admitted that he increased his donations to IU and that it’s a lot. Their football roster budget will be at or above $40 million because of their appearance in this game.

After last season where they exited early, Cuban increased his donations so that they could pay raises to retain players they wanted to and go out to get difference makers like Mendoza.

3) nobody is denying that Cignetti is a great coach. It is naive to think that, in the major college football money arms race era, teams can be national title winning contenders spending less than $35 million on the roster. Players are willing to take small home town discounts to play for a great coach. They are not willing to take 40-50% less than the market when teams are throwing out obscene numbers.
 
1) the players do not receive a portion of revenue share for playoff games from the school. Anything beyond the school’s $20.5 million is paid by their donors.

2) there’s a misperception on your part about how much Cuban spent. He already admitted that he increased his donations to IU and that it’s a lot. Their football roster budget will be at or above $40 million because of their appearance in this game.

After last season where they exited early, Cuban increased his donations so that they could pay raises to retain players they wanted to and go out to get difference makers like Mendoza.

3) nobody is denying that Cignetti is a great coach. It is naive to think that, in the major college football money arms race era, teams can be national title winning contenders spending less than $35 million on the roster. Players are willing to take small home town discounts to play for a great coach. They are not willing to take 40-50% less than the market when teams are throwing out obscene numbers.
Your argument is essentially that Mark Cuban bought them a potentially soon-to-be national title. However, the actual data suggests they spent about an average amount on their roster compared to every other P2 program. That’s all I’m saying. You’re giving Mark Cuban way too much credit.
 
Your argument is essentially that Mark Cuban bought them a potentially soon-to-be national title. However, the actual data suggests they spent about an average amount on their roster compared to every other P2 program. That’s all I’m saying. You’re giving Mark Cuban way too much credit.
i cant find it right now, but as I saw it, IU had a top 5 monetary investment in their roster last year and this. Cuban was the biggest part of their success. The coach was perfect for their budget, but he didn't do anything without that budget.
 
Your argument is essentially that Mark Cuban bought them a potentially soon-to-be national title. However, the actual data suggests they spent about an average amount on their roster compared to every other P2 program. That’s all I’m saying. You’re giving Mark Cuban way too much credit.
The data suggests that, with Mark Cuban’s money, they spent what the same or more as what this year’s playoff teams spent on college football salaries (more for bonuses), not the average P4 team. They spent a lot more on base pay than the average team, unless you don’t think $8-$10 million is a lot.

You describe my argument as something that it is not. IU is not in this position without Mark Cuban or their coaching staff. Cuban paid for the raises for the players they wanted to retain. He ponied up more money in 2025 compared to 2024 for difference makers. Great coaching only takes you so far.
 
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