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Analyzing early verbals

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by absinthe, May 7, 2012.

  1. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

    Dec 1, 2006
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    This post by BB got me thinking, what metrics should we be using to analyze the really early commits?

  2. josef

    josef Club Member Club Member

    Mar 23, 2012
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    Future wins...
  3. zbuff

    zbuff Juiceful and useful. Club Member

    Jan 3, 2009
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    Paraphrasing slightly:

    1. What do the measurables look like?
    2. Is there early interest/offers from other schools?
    3. Has the prospect had standout camp (CU, regional, or national) performance(s)?
    4. Is the prospect's high school a potential good pipeline?
    5. What is the competition like?

    If you can get positive answers from at least three of the five questions, I tend to think you are doing pretty well.
  4. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

    Jun 1, 2011
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    Well, I'm no scout, so I tend to defer to those who get paid know these things. My 3 primary criteria (in no particular order):

    1. Star ratings- this has been discussed at length here before, but there is a strong correlation between star ratings and future success.

    2. Offer lists- Obviously, the more, the better.

    3. Staff priority- I always think it's a good sign if we land guys we offered early, as that can be a good indicator of how high the staff is on a player. Also, in those cases where there are reports that the staff has a kid as a top priority, I'm pretty happy if we land him. I trust the staff, and if we consistently land our priority targets, regardless of how others rate them, I think we'll be OK long-term.

    With the three criteria above, I'm really looking for a kid to rate highly in 2 of the 3 categories. If there's a consensus across all 3, the kid's likely a stud. If they only rate highly in one of the above categories (generally #3 this early in the cycle), I'll look at secondary criteria:

    Measurables- HS measurables are notoriously inflated, so I take these with a grain of salt.

    Video- As I said, I'm no scout, but I do try to make my own evaluations in terms of explosiveness, speed, etc.

    Opinions/evaluations from those I trust- There are a few people at different message boards who whose opinions I trust and who generally give honest evaluations of prospects. If they think highly of the player, this carries weight with me.

    Future benefits- Are there additional benefits in the future that can be gained by signing a kid, ie closing the borders in-state, building pipelines, siblings (even though I'm not a fan of recruiting for this reason), etc.?

    In terms of this class, when evaluating based on these criteria, there are 3 players I'm very happy with so far, 1 that I wouldn't complain about in a class of 25 but wonder about in a class of 16, and one that I'm skeptical about at this point.
  5. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo AnalExplosionDeathMatch Club Member

    Oct 8, 2010
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    Misleading thread title. Thought this was an homage to Freud, dude.
  6. BuffTuba

    BuffTuba Club Member Club Member

    Sep 23, 2006
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    I read as "amazing early verbals". I thought we had another recruit commit.
  7. chitownbuff

    chitownbuff Club Member Club Member

    Feb 25, 2011
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    I'm just happy to have some verbals before the season starts. Thanks Halk.

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