Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by FightCu1414, Oct 11, 2008.
Blasphemy! Cody isn't the answer...Matt is the TRUTH!
Agreed. I'm not going to argue that CU doesn't have a serious problem at the QB position. I think that's true. I just don't think that Ballenger looks like the answer.
I thought Matt was the savior if this team.
Because Cody really looked that much better than Matt.
It's equal right now, each bring a certain skill set to the table.
:lol: Matt gets 2 series,cody gets 6 games. Nice logic. How many points did cody cost cu today?
It doesn't matter who's qb,our OL is a mash unit,our defense can't tackle or get pressure.
I seriously thought we'd win 7 games this year,now I wonder if we will win another game. Don't laugh,our offense is good for 14 points a game.
What do you base that on? I really don't think you can really compare the two fairly yet. All of Matt's playing time has come in garbage time.
C-Hawk: 8/22 (36%) 90 yards
MB: 5/8 (62%) 57 yards
It's open for discussion
(And I just have to add, running backwards 12 yards into the endzone for a safety, while trying to look to throw left-handed was "hair-pulling" awful).
At this point, making a QB change may help a little but THIS team needs more help than just QB.
I'm basing it off of the fact I really can't imagine Ballenger would lead us to more 3 and outs as we went through today with Cody at the helm
Edit: Good point above. 8-22 is laughable. Granted the first pick was NOT his fault. The second was bad. straight up
It's called sarcasm Syko.
Ballenger also threw a duck that should have been intercepted and fumbled.
It doesn't really matter who we line up at QB, if we don't block for him it's going to be a long day.
Cody Hawkins is the best quarterback right now on this team. Ballenger might come along in years to come, but if we want to win six or seven games, then Hawkins has to be the quarterback
I know blocking is bad. but if Cody is capable of throwing it 22 times, he SURELY needs to be able to at least reach the 50% mark. And if blocking is really that BAD. RUN THE BALL.
Guess that makes sense. Our O-Line is so bad we don't want to get our prized recruit hurt. :lol:
Cody is not the answer. Period. Give Ballenger some time to get things figured out. We'll be no worse off in the long run if Ballenger sucks. He has skills that Cody doesn't and hopefully he can figure it out. There is no way that Cody is going to get better in ways that CU needs him to. He isn't going to get a stronger arm, he isn't going to run faster and he isn't going to start throwing the ball down the field. Get MH time practicing w/ the first team and let's see what he can do the rest of the year. Granted, the O-line difficulties make it hard for either of them, but no way Cody overcomes his shortcomings. It's just not going to happen.
You mean like he did vs. OU last year? I remember a OL that actually gave him time to make plays last season.
Cody should start the next game but if he isnt hitting on it then Balleger should get the entire second half. I would like to see him eventually start a game too and then we can start making comparisons... You cant compare him to Cody yet by just letting him have some mop up duty at the end of a game.
Cody is NOT the long-term answer and even though he MAY be the best we have, Ballenger should get a chance to see if he can do anything better. So far he has shown he has a stronger arm and can stand in the pocket better than Cody.
Let's look at how our drives went, yeah?
5 Plays: 13 Yards Punt
3 Plays 17 Yards Interception
5 Plays 28 yards touchdown
5 plays 25 yards punt
3 plays -17 yards Safety
11 plays 53 yards interception
6 Plays 19 yards Punt
6 plays 16 yards punt
4 plays 41 yards touchdown
3 plays 0 yards punt
3 plays 4 yards punt
6 plays 4 yards punt
6 plays 37 yards null
so correct me if I'm wrong.
Ballenger came in on our 3rd to last drive?
Can't get much worse than what Cody did. You really can't
:yeahthat: I believe we gave up with 10 minutes to go. It was still a 2 possesion game and IMO we have a much better shot with cody. Ballenger was throwing like Pennington, little floaters. We need some real help on the OL.
Our D played good for the most part, but its hard when you're on the field the entire game
You don't make a switch at QB unless you are ready to make the switch for the rest of the season. Regardless of the stats that Ballenger has put up in garbage time the last two weeks (who gives a **** if he goes 5/8 when KU is rushing three and playing prevent D 10 yards down the field?), that means you have to think that either a) Ballenger has improved enough since fall practice that he can run the offense better than Cody or b) that it's time to give up on this season and look to the future only.
Personally, I think the OL is where the coaches need to focus their attention. If we can't establish a run game and give a QB (which ever one you choose) a pocket, we're screwed. I think with a run game and some time to throw, Cody is still the best QB we have. Finally, I think that if Cody is given time and a run game this team can compete with anyone else on our schedule except for maybe Mizzou.
It'd be nice if you could start Ballenger for a game and see how he does when the plays actually mean something, but you can't do that unless you are ready to make the switch full time. I just don't think I'm ready to concede that yet.
Why were they on the field the entire game?
because our offense as a whole, were terrible. Mainly the OL
I know this is crazy, but why don't we give Tyler Hansen a try. Missouri will be a good time for him and see how he does. I mean it can't get much worse then Hawkins and Ballenger likes to fumble and throw floaters that u can run from 10 yards a way and and pick it off. I don't know but since Ballenger got a shot why not give Hansen a shot.
So it was the offensive line was at fault for Cody running straight at our endzone for a safety................ok!
That's waht happens when u lose 3 players off your O-line. The o line will do what they did last year. Struggle in the beginning then improve. We were saying hte same things last year.
Hansen is red shirting? Why blow the red shirt midway through the season? Might as well use Nelson before Hansen.
I dont want to see a true freshman blow his RS this late in the year, and especially to make his first career start against a team like mizzou. We can try Nick Nelson or I think Patrick Williams was QB in HS:smile2:
Throwing a true freshman to the wolves like that could do more bad then good imo.
Sorry I was doing off the top of my head. Ya that would not be a good idea. Never mind.
Can he drop a pass before he throws it? Intriguing question... :huh:
Hansen isn't the guy this year. No reason to blow his RS. But if he or Ballenger isn't the guy next year, serious questions about our QB recruiting process have to be asked...
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