Therein lies the problem....a real catch22. I have several friends who are alums in the same boat. And by the way, our dumb ass friends from Austin were in the same boat in the mid 90s. We are no comparison to UT in terms of resources, but give us half of what UT is doing, and I am happy. Don't we have 240K of potential donors? Just give me a sign that we want a winning program and improved facilities, and my checkbook will open...as will several others.