You think coaches are going to be falling all over themselves to come here after firing Tad Boyle? Based on what?
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Colorado v UConn - NCAA Tourney - Official Thread - Thursday 11.30am
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You think coaches are going to be falling all over themselves to come here after firing Tad Boyle? Based on what?
CU as a program has 22 tournament wins, Boyle has 11 of them.
CU as a program has only managed to win 22 games once before in the regular season, Boyle matched it this year.
CU was a 2nd round loser in the CBI last year, this year an 8 seed in the big dance.
CU has gone to the dance 4 out of the past 5 years. With his first year being very deserving of a bid.
This stretch of success is the best era of CU Basketball. Ever. Need to realize that and enjoy the ride.
Also, as has been stated around here before, CU will be just fine without Scott. The offense will adapt. We have some big time players coming in/returning next year.
CVilleBuff
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4 NCAA tournament appearances is time to make a change? We had 2 in the previous 40 years
dyemeduke
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I agree with your overall point, but I do not think we were a borderline NIT team. We were an NCAA team, and Tad isn't above criticism (not saying you're saying that). I love Tad, but I thought he could have put in Fletch to help on D more...Talton just isn't tall enough to scare a shooter when trying to close out.
**** kansas, and NO...we would have given KU a decent game, and I fully expect UConn to give them a decent game to. The ultimate result may still be a KU victory, but we would not have gotten embarrassed.
Either you're drunk, overly entitled and spoiled, or just plain stupid. Let's hope for the first option... ...I'm psst about our loss, because we had the game until a terrible minute that changed the whole game. Let's not overstate what Tad walked into, and then overly degrade next year's potential...
Congrats UConn, good game.
Having said that; collier is absolutely terrible, King disappears in big games, and J40, Tad, and Wes are the only ones who should be holding their heads high after this one.
Having said that; collier is absolutely terrible, King disappears in big games, and J40, Tad, and Wes are the only ones who should be holding their heads high after this one.
Tad deserves criticism no doubt. He needs to learn some things about game management still, and needs to be more involved in substitution patterns. My point about the NIT was that expectations were very very low this year. Picked 7th in the Pac-12, coming off a CBI loss, most were expecting NIT at least around here.
Yeah, I'll stick with Tad.
The team was steadier with Talton at point than Dom.
CVilleBuff
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I thought this was likely an 18-19 regular season win team, likely with a high NIT seed. Mainly because I did not expect GK to be quite so drastically improved. That said, it was evident early on that this was an NCAA Tournament caliber squad. One that could have been a 6 seed and won a game or two in the Dance. It's hard to reach your absolute highest potential, but this season will be a "what could have been". These blown leads sting and we've got to put a stop to this. It's the type of thing that happens on rare occasion. Not something you make a habit out of against every tournament caliber opponent. I expect XJ and Derek to put an end to this infuriating trait.
gotta laugh at the idiots calling for tad's head.
So, the season finished 2 days sooner than it probably should have. I can live with that. This time. But we can't be going into the NCAA tournament as an 8 or 9 seed. If we'd have taken care of business at USC and Utah, we'd have been a 6 or 7 seed. And that's what we need to be. A 6 or better seed. I know we will be dismissed next year after losing Josh Scott. But I think we can be better next year than we were this year. Time will tell.
SIAP, but speaking of GK, where was he today?
If Yale holds on to beat bailer, I would consider that to be an adequate consolation prize.
Puddinhead Wilson
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Let's keep this simple. We lost because of guard play. We do not have an elite point guard. No point guard = no ability to feed others under pressure + no ability to accelerate the attack + too many turnovers. Everyone else presses and plays tight. Watch the tourney and show me an elite team that doesn't have better talent at the point than CU.
It isn't personal. These are college kids, after all. We just need better talent at the point.
Pissed about giving away another game. Thrilled for the recent history of the program. Optimistic about the future. Now, time for a pint.
It isn't personal. These are college kids, after all. We just need better talent at the point.
Pissed about giving away another game. Thrilled for the recent history of the program. Optimistic about the future. Now, time for a pint.
Peters is going to have a huge opportunity when he gets to campus this summer.
CVilleBuff
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I expect to be in the Dance again next year, and I think we have a great shot at this being our best team yet. Of course we seemingly can't have nice things, but the potential is absolutely there. Our guards and depth are going to take a huge step forward + XJ is going to be an animal. If Wes and Tory improve moderately we'll be in great shape
NBDefektor
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Well I gotta say, if nothing else, this team is consistent. There was nothing that happened this game that did not surprise me. Clearly, we felt good at the half, but we all knew this team could easily give away the game. And we did.
It started with the collier/fortune multiple turnovers around the 13:00 mark. Turned the game from a 9 point game to a 2 point game in less than a minute. Then extremely poor guard play and typical turnovers by Fortune led us to the loss. Perhaps the one curveball was our FT shooting. Josh Scott was terrible from there.
But again, none of what happened today was surprising. Frustrating? Of course. But not surprising. Hey, at least we made the tournament. It was a wild ride this season.
Perhaps for me, the most frustrating aspect of this game was George King's unwillingness to take control of this game. I have no doubt he is the most athletically gifted player on our team, yet I imagine he shot maybe 6-8 shots today. Our most talented player NEEDS to shoot more. While Collier and our Belgian played how they normally play, George needed to take control on offense, but he shied away. I feel that he was always on the cusp of dominance this year, but he deferred to others when he had the chance to take control.
So despite Fortune and Collier's typical turnovers (you know, **** I've come to expect over the course of 5 months), George's lack of aggression is what disappointed me the most.
Oh and Tad once again showed me little to change my mind that he's not a good gameday coach.
Anyway, on to the next season!
It started with the collier/fortune multiple turnovers around the 13:00 mark. Turned the game from a 9 point game to a 2 point game in less than a minute. Then extremely poor guard play and typical turnovers by Fortune led us to the loss. Perhaps the one curveball was our FT shooting. Josh Scott was terrible from there.
But again, none of what happened today was surprising. Frustrating? Of course. But not surprising. Hey, at least we made the tournament. It was a wild ride this season.
Perhaps for me, the most frustrating aspect of this game was George King's unwillingness to take control of this game. I have no doubt he is the most athletically gifted player on our team, yet I imagine he shot maybe 6-8 shots today. Our most talented player NEEDS to shoot more. While Collier and our Belgian played how they normally play, George needed to take control on offense, but he shied away. I feel that he was always on the cusp of dominance this year, but he deferred to others when he had the chance to take control.
So despite Fortune and Collier's typical turnovers (you know, **** I've come to expect over the course of 5 months), George's lack of aggression is what disappointed me the most.
Oh and Tad once again showed me little to change my mind that he's not a good gameday coach.
Anyway, on to the next season!
CVilleBuff
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You go nowhere in the NCAA Tournanent without good guard play. It really is that simple
I thought we were NIT at best earlier in the year. Nice to exceed that expectation, but I am disappointed with one-and-done in the tournament. Tad's success has raised expectations for me. I expect more from him.
PS In no way am I calling for him to be fired, just pointing out it is okay to have expectations, even at lowly CU.
PS In no way am I calling for him to be fired, just pointing out it is okay to have expectations, even at lowly CU.
Expectations are fine. Don't think anyone has said that you can't have them. Folks need to have a little bit of perspective though.
aghcsm
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Not to be disagreeable, certainly not downgrading Tad, but if I were the coach in a game like this I wouldn't say I was proud of my coaching job...even if it was largely failure on the part of my players.
You cannot say this enough. In the second half when UCONN really got tough on D and made a run we needed a PG who could settle things down and get us into some semblance of an offense. Dom was in at this time and we looked ragged and lost out there. I was never a big fan of XT, but the team looked better/looser when he was on vs TA and Dom. Tad stated in an offseason luncheon last season that Dom had THIS season to prove he was worthy of being the PG and getting significant minutes. He didn't do it. The job should be wide open from tomorrow on.
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