There’s a reason why folks here are pushing the Big 10 over the Big 12 and SEC. The Big 10 states are much more purple (and inclusive).
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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enjoy your hovel, pitch-forking waving troll of the flyover land.
welfare state. you must be an appalachian.
That matters in football?
Sammy11
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Prime: “I want to play TTU” I mean come on
This is the "Dude of West Virginia". Make of that what you will and take it with a grain of salt.
I don’t get it
“The Live Operations Technical Manager provides support for Apple Live Operations”
Let that sink in for second
I’m guessing aTm has so many due to all the “hate watching”
BerkeleyBuff
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Without veering too much off topic, I don't think this is reality. Just this last year Baylor passed a resolution in support of academic freedom at all costs, at the time largely in response to dip**** Dan Patrick's proposal that critical race theory be banned on Texas campuses (several Baylor faculty went on record in a scathing rebuke of Patrick for that). The only "academic freedom" issues I've seen come out of Baylor in the past two decades has been an incident where they took down the website and eventually let go a professor who was trying to sneak intelligent design BS into his science. I suppose that is in fact restricting academic freedom... but probably not in the direction anyone had in mind. But as a scientist, it certainly didn't bother me. As best I remember he wasn't tenured, and his contract just wasn't renewed.
The answer is b)
Although IN, OH, NE and IA are pretty Red.
Adding those 4 would be my favorite scenario. I'm assuming, of course, that anything that happens was the most lucrative scenario on the table, so I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of my skepticism over how this Pac-14 would bring the most $$$ or say "never happen" with BSU because of academics.
As an aside, one thing I alike a lot about BSU is that they take their football seriously and are the exact type of school that most of the current Pac-12 looks down on. Regularly losing to them would light a fire under the asses of many schools and their boosters who have been too accepting of mediocrity.
What you believe "should be" or do think there has been a wake-up call in the Pac with the dollars and exposure at stake into the future and pragmatism is in the driver's seat instead of principles?
I think it should be and I think it has been. So, both.
How did the "Power 5" conferences arrive at the conclusion that the best thing for the P5 as a collective was to add 8 pretty good G5 programs that all have a brand or are located in recruiting hot beds? We are now seeing UCF pull blue chip recruits, and Houston, Cincy, and BYU won't be far behind. Add yet another P5 program with a bottomless wallet in the DFW area (SMU), SDSU as the lone Pac program in SoCal, and a P5 addition in Vegas, and it's like the middle 80% of the P5 are just like, "yes, it's a great idea to add even more competition for recruits than we already have".
I don't know, maybe it's a good thing at the end of the day. Maybe it'll spread out the true P5 talent a bit more and have a trickle down effect? It's just hard to see guys like Kylan Fox and Stacy Gage commit to UCF when they were once thought of as Buff leans.
I don't know, maybe it's a good thing at the end of the day. Maybe it'll spread out the true P5 talent a bit more and have a trickle down effect? It's just hard to see guys like Kylan Fox and Stacy Gage commit to UCF when they were once thought of as Buff leans.
BerkeleyBuff
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They didn't, because the P5 act as five separate entities each looking out for their own interest, often in reactionary fashion, and not as a collective.
I'm for that addition of the four since it includes UNLV. SDSU & UNLV will not replace Los Angeles but it should soften the blow of losing the LA market when it comes to recruiting and we'd be adding DFW with SMU. If you combine those metro areas where those four are located at, we would only have 5.5 million less people overall for the TV markets if you subtracted the Greater Los Angeles area. If we were to add the Greater Houston market instead of the Boise market, it would be a net gain of 2 million people over what we lost from Los Angeles. It would be so much better if we took Houston away from the Big 12 because Rice isn't going to do anything besides add to the academic reputation of the P12. Rice would get a NO vote from me in this case.
Boise State would light a fire under the NW schools and Utah. It would be nice if they could light a fire under the Bay Area schools...perhaps that would be what SDSU does. I like that thinking.
It seems like Boise State has been the second or third best MWC basketball team the last ten years. Losing BSU will hurt the MWC for sure but not to the degree that the MWC's existence is in jeopardy.
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I look at this as if the PAC is preparing for the loss of at least two schools.
Who knows?
I know I was more being facetious with that comment. Part of the reason these next 5-6 years are going to be critical for the "bubble" programs. The noise for central governing is getting too loud from mainstream CFB media that I think it will happen at some point and the top 20% of programs aren't going to want to split revenue with 70+ total "power 5" programs.
Remember when he "reported" that SDSU was headed to the P12 w/in a week? That was last November.
Good times.
This just reminded me of the Andy Staples article from a few weeks ago where he talked to a few ADs about the Saudi PIF investing in college football. Basic consensus was that if it came down to it, most schools/ADs would cover their ears and take the cash. So yeah... I'm not thinking that bigots hating on LGTBQ rights will stop the university from switching conferences.
If UNLV dropped football tomorrow 143 people in Las Vegas would care. It should never be an expansion candidate.
Whenever people discuss the subject of money and college sports, I come back to the story related in the opening paragraphs of the below linked article:
“I’M NOT HIDING,” Sonny Vaccaro told a closed hearing at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., in 2001. “We want to put our materials on the bodies of your athletes, and the best way to do that is buy your school. Or buy your coach.”
Vaccaro’s audience, the members of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics, bristled. These were eminent reformers—among them the president of the National Collegiate Athletic Association, two former heads of the U.S. Olympic Committee, and several university presidents and chancellors. The Knight Foundation, a nonprofit that takes an interest in college athletics as part of its concern with civic life, had tasked them with saving college sports from runaway commercialism as embodied by the likes of Vaccaro, who, since signing his pioneering shoe contract with Michael Jordan in 1984, had built sponsorship empires successively at Nike, Adidas, and Reebok. Not all the members could hide their scorn for the “sneaker pimp” of schoolyard hustle, who boasted of writing checks for millions to everybody in higher education.
“Why,” asked Bryce Jordan, the president emeritus of Penn State, “should a university be an advertising medium for your industry?”
Vaccaro did not blink. “They shouldn’t, sir,” he replied. “You sold your souls, and you’re going to continue selling them. You can be very moral and righteous in asking me that question, sir,” Vaccaro added with irrepressible good cheer, “but there’s not one of you in this room that’s going to turn down any of our money. You’re going to take it. I can only offer it.”
The Shame of College Sports
A leading civil-rights historian makes the case for paying college athletes—and reveals how a spate of lawsuits working their way through the courts could destroy the NCAA.
www.theatlantic.com
Victory
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Agree except the prospect of seeing a guaranteed road win in Vegas every other year is possibly worth the invite.
Victory
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This is odd. That account doesn’t tweet that much and when they do it’s clips from the show during the day. That was sent at 8:35PM.